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Black Oil #4633424
01/13/18 09:42 AM
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Jason1221 Offline OP
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Purchased a 2014 chevy 2500hd with a 6.0 engine with 90,000 miles on it. I knew the truck and all are hwy miles the old owner had always changed the oil with mobil 1 5w-30 full synthetic every 5000 miles. Iv done two oil changes with the same oil in it and before i get 3000 miles on it the oil gets really really really black. Has anyone ever had this issue before? Engine runs great!

Last edited by Jason1221; 01/13/18 09:43 AM.
Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633443
01/13/18 09:58 AM
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At 5000 miles how far are you along on the oil monitor, in percentage. I have essentially the same engine with 150,000 miles in a 2008 3/4 ton Suburban. Just had a look; at 70 % remaining itís still light brown. Always used Synthetic 5-30, often M-1. Iíll monitor this and let you when it turns black, and yes, when I change oil at 0 % , itís black.

SF

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 01/13/18 10:12 AM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633444
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The below is what you get if you google "black oil bobistheoilguy.com". It will take a while to read all of the threads on this subject.

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Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633454
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Get a uoa done if youíre concerned.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
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Re: Black Oil [Re: Snagglefoot] #4633459
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Jason1221 Offline OP
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At 5000 miles it was 30%

Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633466
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Originally Posted By: Jason1221
At 5000 miles it was 30%


OK, Iíll report back when mine is definitely black, or at 30%, Whichever comes first. Currently putting on about 1,000 miles per month.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633468
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I think the Boron in the add pack is turning is turning the oil black. The Boron is also plating you cylinder bores.. Not a bad thing.

Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633533
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Mobil1 is great oil. Just doing its job. Follow your OLM and the engine will be just fine


1994 Jeep 161k Castrol Synblend 10w30
2014 Camry 36k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 3k FactFill
2014 HD Ultra 42k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 39k Mobil 1 0w20
Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633556
01/13/18 11:35 AM
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Cut open the next used oil filter and look for black/carbon/soot in the pleats of the media. Also look for oil on the throttle plate of the throttle body. These things suggest combustion products are blowing by the piston rings and contaminating the oil and quickly turning it black. The PCV system should be checked.
Does the engine consume oil?

Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4633558
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Mobil 1 is incredible. It's engine oil, isn't that amazing?


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Re: Black Oil [Re: WobblyElvis] #4633559
01/13/18 11:38 AM
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Jason1221 Offline OP
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No sir it dont use a drop of oil

Re: Black Oil [Re: Snagglefoot] #4694132
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Originally Posted By: Jason1221
At 5000 miles it was 30%


OK, Iíll report back when mine is definitely black, or at 30%, Whichever comes first. Currently putting on about 1,000 miles per month.

SF


Just checking back. Iím at 30% left. Getting darker but I wouldnít call it black just yet.


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Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4694187
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Congratulations, your oil is doing what it is engineered to do. Don't worry about it.


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Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4767573
05/25/18 06:04 AM
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Well, finally got down to 0 %. And yes, it is Black.. The driving was all highway with just a bit of city driving. Funny how it seems dark brown on the dipstick but black in the container. Blot samples on paper towels are light brown. The mileage was 10,200 miles at 0 %.




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Re: Black Oil [Re: Jason1221] #4767947
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The previous owner wasn't doing 5k mile intervals with Mobil 1.

I bet he was going per the OLM and using at best Mobil 5000.

If someone used Mobil 1 at 5k intervals, the engine should be spotless and the oil shouldn't be BLACK at 3k miles.

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