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Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles #4632865
01/12/18 07:27 PM
01/12/18 07:27 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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This is a Bosch D+ filter (one of the Walmart clearance ones) off my brother in laws '04 F150 with the 5.4.
Has around 5000 miles on the filter (currently 164,xxx miles on the truck, last change was @ 159,650), 9 months in service.

Filter:


F06H29F1 = June 29, 2016:


Yup, it is a Purolator made filter:


Silicone ADV looks great, no cuts:


Metal crimp seam, no tears, but the Purolator string is back (did not know they were still using them).
Decent pleat spacing all around:






Not sure what this dent is. It is possible I did it while cutting the filter open, but not likely.
Not a huge issue if present during oil change:


Louvers, all open:


Inside the can, a little debris:



And the media cut open, yuck. Lots of carbon and metal flakes:


I am not sure what the life of this engine will be. The last three oil changes have had lots of metal, although this one has less than the last one (less copper/brass looking material though), but still lots of carbon and silver (iron/steel) bits.

I put on another D+ with some Castrol GTX High mileage 5w-20.


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
2004 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/TG2/4k
2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632871
01/12/18 07:33 PM
01/12/18 07:33 PM
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Thanks for the C&P. Filter did itís job for sure. All that metal canít be good.


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632881
01/12/18 07:39 PM
01/12/18 07:39 PM
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Virginia
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You did a very good job here blupupher. I saw this filter last pm at Wally World in Mechanicsville. $3 it said on a sticker. Wasn't my size though.


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Mobil Super 5w30 Wix 57356
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632882
01/12/18 07:40 PM
01/12/18 07:40 PM
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South Texas
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phasers been replaced yet? Maybe try 5w30?
We have been running that in my families 06 5.4 since
We replaced phasers and etc on ours....
i picked up one of these filters for my camry on clearance last year haha
Looks well made


04 Camry 2az-fe 209k
M1 5w30
PremiumGuard filter
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632892
01/12/18 07:45 PM
01/12/18 07:45 PM
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Waco, TX
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I'm curious how long his engine will last making that much "stuff"


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632912
01/12/18 08:03 PM
01/12/18 08:03 PM
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FT Hood TX
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Try a 30 grade it should be a bandaid for the time being. The filter looks good.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632920
01/12/18 08:07 PM
01/12/18 08:07 PM
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NoVA
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Have to agree with others. I would run a 10w30 or at least a 5w30 HM oil.


yup
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632960
01/12/18 08:34 PM
01/12/18 08:34 PM
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Houston, Texas
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Thanks for the C&P. Very good on the filter. Sorry about the metal.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4632963
01/12/18 08:35 PM
01/12/18 08:35 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Still stock phasers on the engine.
xw-30 makes the engine loud (the "diesel" sound). It is the opposite of most I know.
The last few times he had the oil changed at the quick lube before I started doing it they used 5w-30 and I thought the engine was going to explode.
Since I have been using 5w-20 (GTX Syn blend twice, and the GTX HM now), the engine is very quiet, he even commented on it.

He really needs to get rid of the truck.
He needs new front suspension and steering, needs the driveshaft carrier bearing replaced, rear window leak (just need to get around to getting the butyl rope and time to do it), 2 tires, and then all this metal in the engine.
I just fixed the rear suicide door cable latches (stupid plastic keepers) on both sides.

I am trying to keep it going for him with as low a cost as possible, but if the engine goes, that's it.
I am not keen on the cost of phaser replacement, and not sure if I am up to doing it myself, so that is an additional cost.

It is almost $3000 for all the above repairs (not counting the ~$1500 already spent about 18 months ago getting it running again), and the phaser replacement (with chains, oil pump, VCT solenoid, etc)) will not guarantee no more metal (but is very likely where it is from).


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
2004 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/TG2/4k
2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4633094
01/12/18 11:15 PM
01/12/18 11:15 PM
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Waco, TX
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I would like to know more about this media used in the Distance Plus.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4633116
01/12/18 11:43 PM
01/12/18 11:43 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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I can't stand that string that Purolator uses around their filters.
Reminds me of those strings the butchers use to tie around a roast.

Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: Linctex] #4633118
01/12/18 11:45 PM
01/12/18 11:45 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
I would like to know more about this media used in the Distance Plus.

It is marketed as a synthetic media, 99.9% efficiency (@ 40 microns) and supposedly is able to hold more dirt (whatever that means) than other filters.

The media did feel a little different than cellulose and cellulose blend filters, as well as it looks a little different (hard to see on camera).

Overall it seems to be a solid filter, the only Puro made filter I will use, but would not pay full retail ($10+) for it.
I bought the ones I have when they were the $5 clearance price.
By the time they hit $3 (or less), the filter sizes I needed were all gone at all the Walmarts around me.

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I can't stand that string that Purolator puts around their filters.
Reminds me of those strings the butchers use to tie around a roast.

It does not bother me.
Like I said, I have not seen a Purolator filter with string in a few years (aside from a diesel engine filter posted here).
Was just surprised to see it on there, and still can't figure out why it is on there.


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
2007 Vue: VSP 5w-30/EcoGard/OLM
2004 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/TG2/4k
2002 F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard/1yr
1994 VT1100c: Peak 15w-40/PSL/5k



Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: blupupher] #4633658
01/13/18 01:29 PM
01/13/18 01:29 PM
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
Originally Posted By: Linctex
I would like to know more about this media used in the Distance Plus.

It is marketed as a synthetic media, 99.9% efficiency (@ 40 microns) and supposedly is able to hold more dirt (whatever that means) than other filters.

The media did feel a little different than cellulose and cellulose blend filters, as well as it looks a little different (hard to see on camera).

Overall it seems to be a solid filter, the only Puro made filter I will use, but would not pay full retail ($10+) for it.
I bought the ones I have when they were the $5 clearance price.
By the time they hit $3 (or less), the filter sizes I needed were all gone at all the Walmarts around me.

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I can't stand that string that Purolator puts around their filters.
Reminds me of those strings the butchers use to tie around a roast.

It does not bother me.
Like I said, I have not seen a Purolator filter with string in a few years (aside from a diesel engine filter posted here).
Was just surprised to see it on there, and still can't figure out why it is on there.


Just a guess here but I'd say it's there to help keep the pleats uniform or from folding over? shrug


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: irv] #4633670
01/13/18 01:39 PM
01/13/18 01:39 PM
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Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: blupupher
Originally Posted By: Linctex
I would like to know more about this media used in the Distance Plus.

It is marketed as a synthetic media, 99.9% efficiency (@ 40 microns) and supposedly is able to hold more dirt (whatever that means) than other filters.

The media did feel a little different than cellulose and cellulose blend filters, as well as it looks a little different (hard to see on camera).

Overall it seems to be a solid filter, the only Puro made filter I will use, but would not pay full retail ($10+) for it.
I bought the ones I have when they were the $5 clearance price.
By the time they hit $3 (or less), the filter sizes I needed were all gone at all the Walmarts around me.

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I can't stand that string that Purolator puts around their filters.
Reminds me of those strings the butchers use to tie around a roast.

It does not bother me.
Like I said, I have not seen a Purolator filter with string in a few years (aside from a diesel engine filter posted here).
Was just surprised to see it on there, and still can't figure out why it is on there.


Just a guess here but I'd say it's there to help keep the pleats uniform or from folding over? shrug

The string is used to keep the media centered and in place until the media is potted to the end caps. They donít bother to remove it.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Bosch D+ 3410, ~ 5000 miles [Re: WellOiled] #4633702
01/13/18 02:19 PM
01/13/18 02:19 PM
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Oshawa, Ont. Canada
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: irv
Originally Posted By: blupupher
Originally Posted By: Linctex
I would like to know more about this media used in the Distance Plus.

It is marketed as a synthetic media, 99.9% efficiency (@ 40 microns) and supposedly is able to hold more dirt (whatever that means) than other filters.

The media did feel a little different than cellulose and cellulose blend filters, as well as it looks a little different (hard to see on camera).

Overall it seems to be a solid filter, the only Puro made filter I will use, but would not pay full retail ($10+) for it.
I bought the ones I have when they were the $5 clearance price.
By the time they hit $3 (or less), the filter sizes I needed were all gone at all the Walmarts around me.

Originally Posted By: das_peikko
I can't stand that string that Purolator puts around their filters.
Reminds me of those strings the butchers use to tie around a roast.

It does not bother me.
Like I said, I have not seen a Purolator filter with string in a few years (aside from a diesel engine filter posted here).
Was just surprised to see it on there, and still can't figure out why it is on there.


Just a guess here but I'd say it's there to help keep the pleats uniform or from folding over? shrug

The string is used to keep the media centered and in place until the media is potted to the end caps. They donít bother to remove it.


Makes sense.

Thanks. cheers


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
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