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Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 #4632660
01/12/18 05:36 PM
01/12/18 05:36 PM
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I bought this bike new and after dumping the factory fill at 1000km I have used exclusively Motul 5100 10w40 and K&N oil filter
OCI were always 6000kms.Before BITOG I was changing oil filter every OCI,now I don't.
Last oil change before UOA was without touching the filter,so from the total oil capacity of 1,7 liters,about 0,3 liters of old oil were left in which had about 4500 extra km's.
The bike is used from the begining of its life for everyday short trip commuting to work and back (5km's each) and has experienced too much city driving,but also long journeys now and then.
It does not consume any oil at all,its frequently hard driven,and the gearbox shifts quite smooth pretty much at the same manner before and immediately after an oil change.
The oil shearing effect was not noticeable in any way.
In fact the engine seems to like thin oils as it revs happier when its nice and hot.Its a small displacement and low torque engine anyway so you can tell the difference in that.


Ford fiesta 1.6 mk6 Motul specific 913D/Motul Gear 300
Kawasaki ninja 250r Motul 5100 10w40
Honda cbr600f Pc41 Motul 7100 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4632822
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I forgot to mention that the air filter is k&n and that at 60.000km I had the valve clearance adjusted.


Ford fiesta 1.6 mk6 Motul specific 913D/Motul Gear 300
Kawasaki ninja 250r Motul 5100 10w40
Honda cbr600f Pc41 Motul 7100 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4635459
01/15/18 09:12 AM
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I think I will extend the oci to 7500kms from now on, removing and draining the oil filter which is quite big for this engine holding a significant amount of oil and change it every other oci. It is a cartridge type filter. Any comments will be appreciated.


Ford fiesta 1.6 mk6 Motul specific 913D/Motul Gear 300
Kawasaki ninja 250r Motul 5100 10w40
Honda cbr600f Pc41 Motul 7100 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4737788
04/24/18 09:39 PM
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I wouldn't stretch any, unless you intend to run a 20wt in that sump no-no

Last edited by Dyusik; 04/24/18 09:39 PM.

95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 100K Napa 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 20K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 33k PP MIX, NG7047
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4739139
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I tried filling the sump with the oil I dumped from my cbr (motul 7100 10w30) after 6000kms of use which had also seared at the same point as this sample
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4415315/1
and left it in for 1000kms as an experiment.I was very pleased with the engine and gearbox feel, it seemed as it didn't care for the low viscosity...


Ford fiesta 1.6 mk6 Motul specific 913D/Motul Gear 300
Kawasaki ninja 250r Motul 5100 10w40
Honda cbr600f Pc41 Motul 7100 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4743269
04/30/18 10:51 AM
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Great White North.. eh
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I wouldn't want a 20 weight protecting my gears/clutch.

Sheared almost 5cst!


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4743796
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4.9 to be accurate. However,65000kms with 6000km ocis from new till today using the same type of oil (motul 5100 10w40, with the only exemption this 1000km experiment with the 7100 10w30) and not a single engine problem, zero oil consumption also.


Ford fiesta 1.6 mk6 Motul specific 913D/Motul Gear 300
Kawasaki ninja 250r Motul 5100 10w40
Honda cbr600f Pc41 Motul 7100 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4743841
04/30/18 08:15 PM
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Great White North.. eh
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Originally Posted By: Panos
4.9 to be accurate. However,65000kms with 6000km ocis from new till today using the same type of oil (motul 5100 10w40, with the only exemption this 1000km experiment with the 7100 10w30) and not a single engine problem, zero oil consumption also.


Which makes one wonder why we fuss over oil so much.

I bet my DL650 would run on pretty much any JASO oil and I'd sell it before having an oil related failure.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: webfors] #4744237
05/01/18 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: webfors


I bet my DL650 would run on pretty much any JASO oil and I'd sell it before having an oil related failure.


i bet it would run on any NON jaso oil and never fail.

i challenge you to show me ANY oil related failure. oil..not parts, but oil


motorcycle oil myth buster
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4744350
05/01/18 10:44 AM
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What constitutes an oil related failure?
I would say that if your bike starts burning a lot of oil after a complete oil change (and has very few hours on it, ect), despite following the recommended oci by the manufacturer, then the oil type would be one legitimate, major factor for cause/investigation/critique.


17 Rio 45k............15w40 Delvac 5k
08 Rav4 V6 136k..10w40 VML-5k
14 Tiger 800 8k....15W40 T5-3k
12 NC700X 4k .....15W40 T5-5k
"The carpenter's rule is 'measure twice, cut once.'" -Stephen Covey
Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250R 5500km Motul 5100 10w40 [Re: Panos] #4763360
05/20/18 07:45 PM
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Most motorcycle "oil related failures" are people blaming clutch slipping on the oil. In reality, the clutch slips because it's just worn out, or it has been abused by someone not knowing how to ride properly, like some squid doing lame clutch-dump wheelies and burnouts.


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