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Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck #4632442
01/12/18 02:42 PM
01/12/18 02:42 PM
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Texas
WELCOMETOTEXAS Offline OP
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Hello All,

Long time lurker here, and couldn't find any related posts, so I figured it was time to sign up and join the community.
I hope I'm posting this in the right place!


Here is the run down:

I just pulled the trigger on a new 2017 f150 XLT FX4 5.0L. I broke the truck in as recommended, took it on a 1200 mile road trip, have been commuting in it daily. (~45 mile round trip) I have about 3500 miles on it, it has been running great. I was told by a friend that I should go ahead and get factory oil out of the truck and change filter.

I figured it couldn't hurt so I bought a new OEM motorcraft filter and decided on Penzoil Platinum Full Synthetic 5w20 as recommended by Ford/ the community. I went to buy some oil at w-mart but all they had left was one 5Qt of the regular full synth. I looked up and they had plenty of the PP High Mileage 5Qt. From what I have read on this forum this just means it has a better "detergent package."

So I went ahead and pulled the trigger on buying one of each, 5Qt PP full synth, 5Qt PP full synth HM.

I wouldnt think there would be a problem mixing the two, so I did.. the truck has been running great. It seems like every fill up I am getting 0.1MPG better mileage. I attribute this to further engine break in, not the oil...and I really could care less about mileage anyway.. just and observation.

Are there any negative effect by mixing the two? the truck holds ~8L of oil, I use the full 5Qt of the PP Full Synth, and about 3Qt of the PP FS HM.

Maybe I am just driving myself crazy?


I'd love to hear what the community has to say.


Thanks,
Taylor

p.s. Please forgive any spelling and grammar mistakes... I typed this rather quickly.

Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632450
01/12/18 02:46 PM
01/12/18 02:46 PM
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New England
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Hi Taylor, I think the "magic" to HM formulations is seal conditioners, but I'm sure you're absolutely fine with your mix no matter what.
Congrats on the new truck and enjoy!


2014 Forester XT, 86000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632454
01/12/18 02:56 PM
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Georgia
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I wouldn’t do it. Take the HM oil back and exchange it for another brand 5W20 synthetic or even Motorcraft syn blend.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 & Motorcraft 910s
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632461
01/12/18 03:05 PM
01/12/18 03:05 PM
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5600 feet elevation, Arizona
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Well, first off welcome to the asylum! Soon we’ll have you doing 15000 mile trans oil changes! laugh
I wouldn’t worry about your choice, it’s temporary as you’ll probably change it early as well.
Nice truck! Easy to love F150s!


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Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632467
01/12/18 03:12 PM
01/12/18 03:12 PM
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You will be more than fine. There is no harm what so ever. Congrats on the new truck and enjoy the site.


17 Taurus Limited AWD - MCSB 5W-20 FL500S, 8k
14 Civic EX Coupe - NAPA Syn 0W-20 WIX 57356, 54k
09 Accord Sedan 5MT - Traveler 15W-40 XG7317, 151k
87 Regal Limited - Carb 5.3 LM7 20W-50 VR1 WIX 51042
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632519
01/12/18 04:02 PM
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Texas
WELCOMETOTEXAS Offline OP
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I figured it wouldn't matter, glad others agree!

Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632554
01/12/18 04:18 PM
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Soviet State of Washington
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I’m generally not a fan of mixing but in your case using the same brand it should be fine. Welcome and congrats on your new Ford.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: MParr] #4632629
01/12/18 05:11 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: MParr
I wouldn’t do it. Take the HM oil back and exchange it for another brand 5W20 synthetic or even Motorcraft syn blend.


That truck will likely explode any second now!


2004 Corolla 124770
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632631
01/12/18 05:12 PM
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Rockwall, Texas
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You did good. Good choice on the 5.0.

Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632668
01/12/18 05:41 PM
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socal
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Congrats on new truck! Personally, I would have put in non HM oil in a brand new truck, but I highly doubt it will affect your truck negatively. No worries


06 Cadillac Escalade Ext
17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
05 Toyota Camry (daughter)
11 GMC Canyon off-road (daily)
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: redhat] #4632670
01/12/18 05:42 PM
01/12/18 05:42 PM
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+1 to what redhat stated.

I think blending within one brand is certainly just fine. Pennzoil with Pennzoil or Mobil with Mobil etc etc... Additive package very likely the exact same for the two oils being put together. Sometimes there are differences but not often. Now if one were to mix say Mobil Super and Mobil Special... There would be a difference.. Mobil super uses a bit of titanium and sodium and calcium. Whereas Mobil Special uses high calcium and a decent bit of molybdenum and no sodium and no titanium. But would that truly matter if mixing them together?? Not really at the end of the day. One thing of note about mixing... If one is in an area where the low temps are going to be pushing the W (winter rating) rating very hard.... Mixing different W's like say a 10w and 0w may not be the greatest idea in the world. If one is truly pushing the cold performance due to very, very low temps.

One thing to keep in mind is that one can "inadvertantly" mix oils when changing their oil from say Pennzoil Platinum to say Mobil 1. There will be some of the Pennzoil Platinum left behind no matter what you do... Even if left to drip down over night. There are place where the left over oil just can't evacuate from. So, in all reality almost everyone has mixed oils at some point.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632683
01/12/18 05:56 PM
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No harm done at all.
I suspect that in the case of any 5W-20 grade oil, the primary difference between the two is probably in the labeling.
It's not as though you've mixed two really incompatible oils.
Nice choice with the 5.0, incidentally.
No turbo or DI nonsense.


17 Forester 12K MSS 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632723
01/12/18 06:28 PM
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Texas
WELCOMETOTEXAS Offline OP
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Great info all, now I can go to sleep tonight and not have it in the back of my mind!

I'm not a fan of the eco engines either, my two requirements for the truck are 5.0 coyote and 36 gallln tank.
Great feeling when you fill up and it says "682 miles until empty"

Love the truck, basically a lariat with "cloth" seats.. although they feel more like high gauge braided wire. Much better than the old style cloth.

Anyway, thank y'all again for chiming in. Needless to say, next oil change I will not be mixing the oils.

Regards,
Taylor

Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4632859
01/12/18 08:23 PM
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Nothing to worry about. After each change you will have about a quart of "old" oil and I suspect the majority of vehicle owners change brands every couple of OCI's. With immeasurable ill effects.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Half full synth, half full synth HM new truck [Re: WELCOMETOTEXAS] #4633127
01/13/18 12:53 AM
01/13/18 12:53 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Out here we run HM oil in newly rebuilt motors to keep the seals happy smile

I would not worry one bit about mixing those two. Nice truck, enjoy smile


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