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#4632423 - 01/12/18 01:09 PM My House Was Sabotaged Last Night!
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
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Loc: Onondaga County
My house has some water issues. I will be pulling a permit to connect to the storm drain in a few months. So I won't end up with water in my crawlspace when we get heavy rains.

It was warm yesterday and rained in the afternoon. And then heavy rain overnight with pretty warm temperatures.

When I woke up this morning, I noted the heavy rain and that most of the snow had melted in my back yard. But I noticed that I didn't hear my sump pump. Which was strange. I have it in a shallow hole, so it will cycle for a minute, then off for 2 or 3, then back on. I figured I had got lucky and my french drains to another part of the yard were working.

Went out to take the dog out and discovered that SOMEONE HAD MOVED MY SUMP PUMP DISCHARGE overnight! They grabbed the discharge hose, opened the crawlspace access and put the discharge right back into the crawlspace.

Ran back inside and killed the pump and opened up my floor hatch to take a look. The reason I didn't hear the pump running is because it was under 6 inches of water.

Luckily it's enough below grade in the crawl space that it means ONLY an inch or two of water had filled the entire crawlspace. I'm not sure how long the pump was running continuously, but I imagine most of the night.

When I was getting ready for bed last night, the dog and cats were acting like someone was in the back yard. And I thought I heard something outside. Apparently it was someone messing with the sump discharge.

There's a bar by my house. The people tend to wander through everyone's back yard to make it home. My best guess is that someone got sprayed with it and got mad and decided to teach me a lesson.

There's not much point to this. But just frustration. I had put a lot of work into solving 90% of the crawlspace moisture issues to the point that the water would travel through a path I dug into the pump. To try to combat the sinking and structural issues the house has. This isn't good when you're pouring concrete.
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#4632425 - 01/12/18 01:13 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
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Lots of disrespectful idiots out there. Can you use solid plastic pipe to make it more permanent?
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#4632429 - 01/12/18 01:20 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
MasterSolenoid Offline


Registered: 09/26/17
Posts: 168
Loc: One Step Beyond
Sorry to hear this.
What can you do so it doesn't happen again ?

1) Rigid PVC pipe painted a dark color so it's less noticeable (at night).

2) A Water Alarm so if your Pump fails, you will know right away.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Basement-Watchdog-Battery-Operated-Water-Alarm-BWD-HWA/100038838

Always good to have an 'extra' sump pump standing by.


Edited by MasterSolenoid (01/12/18 01:23 PM)

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#4632431 - 01/12/18 01:26 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
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Registered: 08/12/11
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Sorry you had to deal with idiots.
I would put couple cameras around (for your safety).
And lock the crawl access.

you don't want them "playing" with your Jeep or Subie

I saved my kids godparents basement and sump-pump from a neighbor too zealous in using a mower, who kicked the straight pvc pipe, started collecting water, which froze, then made an ice plug for the pump, which run continuously.
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#4632435 - 01/12/18 01:30 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
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Loc: Southeast Florida
Sorry to hear Miller88.

I agree with pandus13 and will add...

Once they know they "got away" with these shenanigans, they will be back and try to take it a step further. This may just have been a feeling-out process for bigger things to come.
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#4632437 - 01/12/18 01:36 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18183
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Bars and people who patronize them are disgusting. It would be sweet if you could somehow set a trap for the next scum bag who trespasses on your property.
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#4632438 - 01/12/18 01:39 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: wemay]
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Sorry to hear Miller88.

I agree with pandus13 and will add...

Once they know they "got away" with these shenanigans, they will be back and try to take it a step further. This may just have been a feeling-out process for bigger things to come.


Or they just have been drunk kids out goofing.
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#4632446 - 01/12/18 01:45 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
cjcride Offline


Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 1815
Loc: Ontario Canada
Motion sensor security lights and possibly cameras.

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#4632453 - 01/12/18 01:55 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10182
Loc: OH
Next time let the German Shepherd out to take care of business. smile

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#4632455 - 01/12/18 01:56 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
JC1 Offline


Registered: 11/29/08
Posts: 3019
Loc: Oshawa, Ontario Canada
Smear a bunch of dog poop around the pipe, problem solved.

Maybe crazy glue a few box cutter knives to the pipe as well. Lmao.
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#4632456 - 01/12/18 01:59 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: aquariuscsm]
W3DRK Offline


Registered: 05/27/17
Posts: 30
Loc: PA, USA
My wife and I frequent several local bars. We're also hard-working mature adults with what I would describe as an upper-middle class household income, own our home, friendly and helpful with the neighbors, and pay our taxes.

Several of these bars also sponsor our local children's baseball and football teams, funds which ultimately come from customers like us who patronize these establishments. Are these business disgusting?

And because we choose to spend some of our free time conversing with friends over a couple drinks at the bar, we're disgusting too?



Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Bars and people who patronize them are disgusting. It would be sweet if you could somehow set a trap for the next scum bag who trespasses on your property.

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#4632460 - 01/12/18 02:04 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
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Registered: 05/18/12
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Loc: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Are land mines an option?

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#4632463 - 01/12/18 02:09 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: SatinSilver]
Miller88 Offline


Registered: 04/09/08
Posts: 12707
Loc: Onondaga County
It's really the quietest bar I've ever seen. Never hear anything past 9. I'm not sure why anyone would do this other than they were startled by getting hit with some water. For the most part, it's a good neighborhood.


Originally Posted By: cjcride
Motion sensor security lights and possibly cameras.


I have motion security lights - but I ended up killing power to the garage because they kept turning on and off randomly. Probably because someone was walking in the back yard.

Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Next time let the German Shepherd out to take care of business. smile


She might paw and nose bump them to death. She's not territorial so she would let anyone in. Now, if I were to let my cat at them ....

Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Are land mines an option?


If you mean the ones left by the dog, then yes smile That may have been what caused the whole thing
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#4632474 - 01/12/18 02:18 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: W3DRK]
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Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18183
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Originally Posted By: W3DRK
My wife and I frequent several local bars. We're also hard-working mature adults with what I would describe as an upper-middle class household income, own our home, friendly and helpful with the neighbors, and pay our taxes.

Several of these bars also sponsor our local children's baseball and football teams, funds which ultimately come from customers like us who patronize these establishments. Are these business disgusting?

And because we choose to spend some of our free time conversing with friends over a couple drinks at the bar, we're disgusting too?



Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Bars and people who patronize them are disgusting. It would be sweet if you could somehow set a trap for the next scum bag who trespasses on your property.


Well,he didn't say members from the neighborhood church read scripture and then vandalized his home. It was some drunk jerk off from the neighborhood "bar" who thinks it's cool to get sauced and go vandalize someone's home.
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#4632490 - 01/12/18 02:38 PM Re: My House Was Sabotaged Last Night! [Re: Miller88]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7480
Loc: S California
I'm so sorry you had your problems but in your case, if the dog is not up to the job then motion detectors with really bright lights is a good option. These creeps that do stuff like that are cowards when it comes to being exposed.

Really bright lights that blind people at night are worth researching. It appears that you need to do a little planning and make a project out of securing your home against useless drunks.

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