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#4631432 - 01/11/18 12:21 PM Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe
Lethal1ty17 Offline


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 787
Loc: TX


Changed out the Mobil 1 Annual Protection early so I didn't exceed the previous 12,000 mile recommendation from Blackstone while on my 4,000+ mile Christmas vacation road trip. Purolator PureOne filter, magnetic drain plug, AEM cold air intake with cone filter (that I realize I need to clean). WOT pull to the redline every time it is warmed up. Mostly highway miles at moderate to high speeds and loads in Texas heat. Vehicle has 183,xxx miles on her as of now and runs perfectly smooth.

Discuss.

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#4631435 - 01/11/18 12:24 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
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Was the 7/8/14 samples Rotella T6?
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#4631443 - 01/11/18 12:31 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
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Nice consistent results. This is a gem of an engine.
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#4631447 - 01/11/18 12:38 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
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The iron numbers aren't exactly alarming,
but they seem kind of high compared to some other UOA's I have seen recently.
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#4631543 - 01/11/18 02:13 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
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Registered: 12/24/16
Posts: 87
Loc: Indiana, USA
I feel like M1 EP would work out for you just as well with that OCI. Kind of disappointed in how the AP performed with the TBN down at 3, and while you did tow, your mileage was mostly highway. Curious how different Amsoil signature series would look

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#4631578 - 01/11/18 02:42 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Smoqueed]
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Originally Posted By: Smoqueed
I feel like M1 EP would work out for you just as well with that OCI. Kind of disappointed in how the AP performed with the TBN down at 3, and while you did tow, your mileage was mostly highway. Curious how different Amsoil signature series would look


Or any Amsoil. Mobil AP has priced themselves out of the market.


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (01/11/18 02:46 PM)
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#4631698 - 01/11/18 05:43 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Virtus_Probi]
Lethal1ty17 Offline


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 787
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Was the 7/8/14 samples Rotella T6?


Castrol Edge EP 5w20

Originally Posted By: wemay
Nice consistent results. This is a gem of an engine.


I am excited to see how long she lasts.

Originally Posted By: Linctex
The iron numbers aren't exactly alarming,
but they seem kind of high compared to some other UOA's I have seen recently.


But look at what I do to it wink

Originally Posted By: Smoqueed
I feel like M1 EP would work out for you just as well with that OCI. Kind of disappointed in how the AP performed with the TBN down at 3, and while you did tow, your mileage was mostly highway. Curious how different Amsoil signature series would look


I intended to go longer but stuff happened, I agree though. The previous fill was M1 EP 5w20. I doubt I will ever run Amsoil unless someone else buys it for me.

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#4632237 - 01/12/18 09:12 AM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5085
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: Linctex
The iron numbers aren't exactly alarming,
but they seem kind of high compared to some other UOA's I have seen recently.


I expected lower iron considering he's got a magnetic drain plug in here helping to catch stuff.

Hey Lethal1ty17, does the drain plug come out with some metallic slush on it?
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#4632269 - 01/12/18 09:40 AM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Artem]
Lethal1ty17 Offline


Registered: 07/01/10
Posts: 787
Loc: TX
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: Linctex
The iron numbers aren't exactly alarming,
but they seem kind of high compared to some other UOA's I have seen recently.


I expected lower iron considering he's got a magnetic drain plug in here helping to catch stuff.

Hey Lethal1ty17, does the drain plug come out with some metallic slush on it?


It does, but it is not much. I should have taken a picture of it. Whenever I installed the drain plug it didn't seem to change the wear numbers much. I installed it starting on the oil drain interval the July sample came from. Also happened to be the longest sample too.

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#4633758 - 01/13/18 03:18 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
Konstantine Offline


Registered: 01/12/18
Posts: 44
Loc: Rockies
The few UOA's i've seen from mobil 1 AP are a little disappointing. It's hard to believe this oil can go 20K. Typical M1 iron numbers as well, IMHO.
What oil was used on the 12-16-16 OC?

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#4633772 - 01/13/18 03:30 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2242
Loc: MN
Universal average for iron wear is 14 ppm on this engine, probably based on oil changes at an average 7,500 miles, so your numbers are exactly meeting the average, even in hard use.
TBN is really a measure of acid-buffering potential remaining, and Mobil1 Annual Protection also uses strong anti-oxidants and very stable base oils to keep acids from creating sludge particles, so TBN isn't the whole story of how this oil is holding up.

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#4633794 - 01/13/18 03:57 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: oil_film_movies]
Konstantine Offline


Registered: 01/12/18
Posts: 44
Loc: Rockies
I guess I was expecting more than average numbers for an oil that's considered Mobils top of the line oil. High expectations always set me up for disappointment.

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#4633933 - 01/13/18 06:37 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2242
Loc: MN
Konstatine, a UOA only tells you some vague wear information, and doesn't say much about deposits formation.
This one had very little contamination from silicon (sandy dust) particles, good info on the environment anyway. No anti-freeze coolant contamination, OK good there. ... About the oil, its viscosity is right where a new 5w20 M1 Annual Protection which indicates little or no oxidation thickening has occurred in 10k miles. Thats a lot of miles for no KV100 increase. This oil is hanging in there nicely. A rise in KV100 is a warning, and there is no problem here.

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#4634032 - 01/13/18 09:13 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2095
Loc: Malaysia
Concur with OFM evaluation.
I would speculate AP starts off with lowish TBN(searching for it's virgin TBN,if available) and it appears to have high TBN retention capability.
Expecting to see a good 20k UOA with it.... one day.

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#4634144 - 01/14/18 12:02 AM Re: Mobil 1 AP 5w20 (10,155 mi) 2010 3.8 Genesis Coupe [Re: Lethal1ty17]
Konstantine Offline


Registered: 01/12/18
Posts: 44
Loc: Rockies
I just ran Mobil 1 AP 0W-20 for 7k in my 2016 Escalade, so i'm definitely not saying it's junk. I didn't send a sample in for an OA on this run since it only has 15k miles on it, and that in my opinion could impugn mobil 1 AP's reputation . I'll start sending some samples to the lab once she's got 30k. Unfortunately, I'll be handcuffed by the OLM so there won't be any extended intervals.

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