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Hate Windows 10 #4631360
01/11/18 12:33 PM
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loneryder Offline OP
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I posed this question on another thread and got some good suggestions. I put Win 10 on a desktop and hate it. I can't find stuff or do things I've been doing for years on Win 7. I'm in my 60's and haven't found one contemporary who doesn't hate Win 10. I still have 7 on my laptop which I use all the time. I asked about alternative operating systems and Linux was suggested for what I do. Email, news blogs, forums, and music dl's.
How hard is it to install Linux and get rid of Windows 10 on a desktop? I've tried to wipe a Samsung Tab and install Lollipop following youtube directions and haven't been able to complete the process. Not upset about it because I couldn't use it anyway with all the bloatware on it.

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631367
01/11/18 12:35 PM
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Install a shell? That makes it look and act like 7.


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631375
01/11/18 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: loneryder
Email, news blogs, forums, and music dl's.

These sound like basic tasks that just about any web browser should be able to accomplish, regardless of underlying operating system. Does Win 10 not allow you to access your email or browse internet forums, etc?


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How hard is it to install Linux and get rid of Windows 10 on a desktop? I've tried to wipe a Samsung Tab and install Lollipop following youtube directions and haven't been able to complete the process. Not upset about it because I couldn't use it anyway with all the bloatware on it.

Before you venture to a completely different OS, which you are going to have to learn, maybe try this first?

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/make-windows-10-like-windows-7


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631376
01/11/18 12:42 PM
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Referred to as the better Billy Gates spyware!


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631377
01/11/18 12:43 PM
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I prefer XP myself but I really hate windows 8 series. Windows 10 makes you do too many steps to get some things done yet other things are really nice.


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631398
01/11/18 12:59 PM
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After taking 20 minutes to customize 10, I like it more than XP or 7. Turn off the notification center and Cortana, remove/uninstall all the stupid tiles and bloatware, pin the control panel, task manager and this PC to the start menu along with other commonly used apps. Install it on an SSD and it boots and shuts down in seconds.


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631414
01/11/18 01:06 PM
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Im used to it now, and I actually like it for my purposes. I turned off cortana but use the rest of it. Popping up with mail, flashing different things was obnoxious at first. Now i like it and see the old ways kind of antique. Like a flip phone.


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631456
01/11/18 01:46 PM
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Windows 10 can be customized to look and work almost like windows 7 just gotta figure where all the settings are, or get a shell that does that for you like others suggested. I imagine you would be need to customize linux if you installed that as well.

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631489
01/11/18 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: loneryder
How hard is it to install Linux and get rid of Windows 10 on a desktop?


It's easy enough to do, but one thing you should try first is putting (Ubuntu) on a USB stick (preferably 3.0) so that you can run that OS off the USB stick to try it out first.

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631497
01/11/18 02:31 PM
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Before you wipe out and install something else try classicshell at http://www.classicshell.net. That will make it more win7 like and works well.

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631498
01/11/18 02:32 PM
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If Win7 to Win10 is difficult, trying to run Linux will almost make you throw your PC in the trash.



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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631514
01/11/18 02:42 PM
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1. Did you perform a image of your W7 installation before installing W10 over it?
2. Installing Linux is straightforward, however using it will require a learning curve.
3. Check out the guides on Tweakhound.


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Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: Touring5] #4631521
01/11/18 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Touring5
If Win7 to Win10 is difficult, trying to run Linux will almost make you throw your PC in the trash.


^This

Windows 10 is a walk in the park compared to trying to install Linux especially if you don't know all the drivers you'll need for what you have.

I don't even notice any difference going from Windows 7 to 10.

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631549
01/11/18 03:15 PM
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I have no idea how anyone could think a user-oriented Linux-based OS like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, SUSE, etc. is somehow more difficult to use than Windows. It is entirely and profoundly the opposite. There is one source for all of your software, all updates are tested and pushed to your system automatically, there are no trials and costly upgrades, you don't have to concern yourself over viruses, malware, spyware, etc. and no one is ever going to ask anything of or take anything from you.

It is true that you'll have to install it; but again, the user-oriented OS's are simply a matter of filling in questions like "your name" and clicking "OK" for everything else.

Linux OS's are made to serve and work for you, in contrast to treating you as a cash cow or source of valuable personal data.

It is very easy to load one of these OS's onto a USB stick, boot directly from it and test it out. If you like it, you can install it right then and there. If you are interested in doing that, I'd be happy to provide you with some step-by-step guidance using Ubuntu. You take take a quick peek at Ubuntu here: https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features

Re: Hate Windows 10 [Re: loneryder] #4631551
01/11/18 03:19 PM
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henni Offline
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1. Install Classic Shell, free download
2. Install a new, wipe, format, Windows 7 on desktop
3. Install Linux Mint, download .ISO and burn to DVD, then boot from DVD with option to setup

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