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Garage Lights #4631262
01/11/18 11:08 AM
01/11/18 11:08 AM
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Nowhere NM
Smoky14 Offline OP
Smoky14  Offline OP
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Nowhere NM
I need to replace the 4ft 2 bulb fluorescent lights. I'm shopping LED but the choices are overwhelming. I see "wraparound" etc without explanation of what all the g-whiz description is about.
Can you guys give me some suggestions on where, what and why so I can narrow my search.
It seems the older I get the more light I need and boy do I feel old lately.

Thanks Smoky


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631266
01/11/18 11:13 AM
01/11/18 11:13 AM
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North Carolina
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There is a bunch out there but it is confusing. I found a 4' work like at Costco for $19 It is LED and had very good light output. I took down my 4' florescent that was over my work bench and replaced it with that. You can even daisy chain them if you want. I figure when my 8' lights go in my garage that is what I will replace them with. But by then there will probably be more options available and less expensive.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631275
01/11/18 11:16 AM
01/11/18 11:16 AM
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PV Az
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If you can do a bit of wiring get the bulbs that eliminate the ballast in the fixture. LED bulbs are fairly directional so they're doing things to get the light to spread out. I've seen different names for the same idea.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631280
01/11/18 11:22 AM
01/11/18 11:22 AM
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NY, USA
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I recently updated my garage lights. I have three fixtures on the ceiling, two have 4 tubes (4 ft) each, and the third fixture has 2 tubes. My issue is that the ballasts are lazy in winter. I did not choose to get new ballasts, they are expensive and temp range is not good. My final choice was direct-wired LED tubes. I cut all ballasts off, and rewired them according to the LED tube instruction. Not difficult, but obviously time is needed to rewire and make sure they are correct. I am happy with the outcome, and in extreme cold temps this past week, I have full lights in garage.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631289
01/11/18 11:29 AM
01/11/18 11:29 AM
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Waco, TX
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Honestly, for cost and light output...

It's REALLY hard to beat T-8 fixtures.

The shop lights and a big box of (24 qty?) T-8 bulbs don't cost much at walmart.

The older T-12's are getting obsolete fast.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: windeye] #4631330
01/11/18 12:04 PM
01/11/18 12:04 PM
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NM, USA
pkunk Offline
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NM, USA
Originally Posted By: windeye
I recently updated my garage lights. I have three fixtures on the ceiling, two have 4 tubes (4 ft) each, and the third fixture has 2 tubes. My issue is that the ballasts are lazy in winter. I did not choose to get new ballasts, they are expensive and temp range is not good. My final choice was direct-wired LED tubes. I cut all ballasts off, and rewired them according to the LED tube instruction. Not difficult, but obviously time is needed to rewire and make sure they are correct. I am happy with the outcome, and in extreme cold temps this past week, I have full lights in garage.

This is what I've done-have over 40 now and love them
https://www.ebay.com/itm/T8-LED-Tube-Light-4ft-18W-Milky-Cover-100-240V-120cm-3000K-4000K-6000K-10-25pack/122373359305?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=422855399142&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: windeye] #4631379
01/11/18 12:43 PM
01/11/18 12:43 PM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
Originally Posted By: windeye
I recently updated my garage lights. I have three fixtures on the ceiling, two have 4 tubes (4 ft) each, and the third fixture has 2 tubes. My issue is that the ballasts are lazy in winter. I did not choose to get new ballasts, they are expensive and temp range is not good. My final choice was direct-wired LED tubes. I cut all ballasts off, and rewired them according to the LED tube instruction. Not difficult, but obviously time is needed to rewire and make sure they are correct. I am happy with the outcome, and in extreme cold temps this past week, I have full lights in garage.


Any links to the products you used?


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631417
01/11/18 01:10 PM
01/11/18 01:10 PM
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NJ
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I have these. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Newhouse-Lig...LIGHT/302533322

They work well. No flicker, no buzz, no issues in the winter. Very bright.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631604
01/11/18 04:25 PM
01/11/18 04:25 PM
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Lexington, NC
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Lexington, NC
Originally Posted By: Smoky14
I need to replace the 4ft 2 bulb fluorescent lights. I'm shopping LED but the choices are overwhelming. I see "wraparound" etc without explanation of what all the g-whiz description is about.
Can you guys give me some suggestions on where, what and why so I can narrow my search.
It seems the older I get the more light I need and boy do I feel old lately.

Thanks Smoky


Smoky...if you're able to ride a 1200 Suzy, you are still a young man! I used to ride bikes but had to go with 3 wheelers due to age.

BTW, thanks for asking a question about a product I didn't even know existed. After reading the replies, I know what to replace my 4 footers with.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631616
01/11/18 04:45 PM
01/11/18 04:45 PM
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Arizona
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Arizona
+1 the LED bulbs or fixtures at Costco. Cheap and bright. also IMO I have found the FEIT brand LED's are consistently good quality

Re: Garage Lights [Re: Smoky14] #4631678
01/11/18 06:12 PM
01/11/18 06:12 PM
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USA
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I have read too many issues about reliability with LED tube replacements.

I'd suggest sticking with the fluorescent tubes, but get them in 5000K for daylight color. And when you turn them on, leave them on for as long as you can tolerate. They aren't meant to flip on and off like an incandescent, so if you leave them running then they tend to last quite a while without losing brightness.

Re: Garage Lights [Re: Leo99] #4632018
01/12/18 12:52 AM
01/12/18 12:52 AM
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GA
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GA
Originally Posted By: Leo99
I have these. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Newhouse-Lig...LIGHT/302533322

They work well. No flicker, no buzz, no issues in the winter. Very bright.


That looks pretty good!

Re: Garage Lights [Re: windeye] #4632041
01/12/18 01:24 AM
01/12/18 01:24 AM
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CA
Originally Posted By: windeye
I recently updated my garage lights. I have three fixtures on the ceiling, two have 4 tubes (4 ft) each, and the third fixture has 2 tubes. My issue is that the ballasts are lazy in winter. I did not choose to get new ballasts, they are expensive and temp range is not good. My final choice was direct-wired LED tubes. I cut all ballasts off, and rewired them according to the LED tube instruction. Not difficult, but obviously time is needed to rewire and make sure they are correct. I am happy with the outcome, and in extreme cold temps this past week, I have full lights in garage.


One of my three fixtures stopped working and it was a ballast problem. Like you found, replacements are expensive so I installed direct wire LEDs. Brighter for less wattage. In fact, 1 led tube has similar output to 2 fluorescent.


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: CharlieBauer] #4632756
01/12/18 07:00 PM
01/12/18 07:00 PM
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Alabama, USA
bcossa2001 Offline
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Alabama, USA
When the ballast went out on my 8 ft tubes I put in a few single sockets and used some spare CFL bulbs.

When these go out Iíll probably use LED single bulbs. I think itís a good cheap solution


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Re: Garage Lights [Re: bcossa2001] #4632872
01/12/18 08:34 PM
01/12/18 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: bcossa2001

When these go out Iíll probably use LED single bulbs. I think itís a good cheap solution



If your state PUC subsidizes the edison base LEDs but not the shop lights it can make sense.

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