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#4630462 - 01/10/18 12:57 PM Fram PH3387A
WyrTwister Offline


Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1487
Loc: Texas
$ 3.77 at Home depot and Walmart .

$ 3.59 Napa Silver with current discount .

Which is the better filter ?

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#4630476 - 01/10/18 01:07 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10128
Loc: OH
Should probably throw in the ST Wix at WM for around $2.77 or so. The Fram has an efficiency rating of 95% for 20 microns and larger.

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#4630498 - 01/10/18 01:24 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
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If you are referring to the Fram Extra Guard for $3.77, I would prefer it over the NAPA Silver for the following reason(s):
1. The Fram Extra Guard has a dome end bypass valve and it is independent from the ADBV in some/most cases.
2. The NAPA Silver has a combo valve. Some folks take issue with the nitrile combo valves. Again for some/most cases.
3. The Fram Extra Guard efficiency is better. 95% @ 20 micron.
4. Rare to see a bad cut & post of either filter even when seriously abused.
5. Still can't decide, flip a coin.
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#4630513 - 01/10/18 01:35 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
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Either is fine for a 5,000 mile OCI
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#4630518 - 01/10/18 01:37 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
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More important is what air filter will be used. For that I'd go oem or a Fram Extra Guard. With the Fram being preferred.

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#4630541 - 01/10/18 01:58 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
WyrTwister Offline


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For the Lacrosse 3.8l , 3000 mile OCI on dino oil .

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#4630542 - 01/10/18 01:58 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
CT8 Offline


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The end result in the differences in engine wear in real life would be iconsequential. What really matters in that the filter doesn't fail in operation .
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#4630554 - 01/10/18 02:10 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2845
Loc: california
Neither has a bypass valve required so the Napa Silver for me. I just don't like some of the EG 's pictured here. I got the Luber Finer PH477 for about $5 with discount, which is above these filters.

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#4630562 - 01/10/18 02:15 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
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I would pick the Super Tech, since it should be exactly the same filter as the NAPA Silver, for less money.
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#4630641 - 01/10/18 03:22 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: bullwinkle]
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Bullwinkle - actually, the NAPA silver has 10% more media than the Proselect. The Proselect and the Super Tech are the same filter AFAIK.
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#4630656 - 01/10/18 03:46 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
MParr Offline


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 513
Loc: Georgia
NAPA Silver
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#4630669 - 01/10/18 04:06 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17762
Loc: PNW
If you want better efficiency and a silicone ADBV (only on the newer EGs, so check ADBV color before buying), then get the Fram over the NAPA Silver.

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#4630696 - 01/10/18 04:53 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3884
Loc: California
It doesn't matter. As long as the engine sounds good and the filter doesn't fail either will work.

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#4630700 - 01/10/18 05:01 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6135
Loc: USA
Fram has started using silicone ADBV's on even their cheapest filters, so if you can find a PH3387A with the silicone, that would be my choice. Otherwise, Napa Silver.

FWIW, the ST at Walmart is less than $3 is the same as the Napa Proselect smile

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#4630853 - 01/10/18 07:44 PM Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 01/13/13
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How does the Napa Proselect " rate " compared to the Napa silver ?

Thanks , :-)
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