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Fram PH3387A #4630462
01/10/18 01:57 PM
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WyrTwister Offline OP
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$ 3.77 at Home depot and Walmart .

$ 3.59 Napa Silver with current discount .

Which is the better filter ?

Thanks , :-)


Wyr
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Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630476
01/10/18 02:07 PM
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Should probably throw in the ST Wix at WM for around $2.77 or so. The Fram has an efficiency rating of 95% for 20 microns and larger.

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630498
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If you are referring to the Fram Extra Guard for $3.77, I would prefer it over the NAPA Silver for the following reason(s):
1. The Fram Extra Guard has a dome end bypass valve and it is independent from the ADBV in some/most cases.
2. The NAPA Silver has a combo valve. Some folks take issue with the nitrile combo valves. Again for some/most cases.
3. The Fram Extra Guard efficiency is better. 95% @ 20 micron.
4. Rare to see a bad cut & post of either filter even when seriously abused.
5. Still can't decide, flip a coin.


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Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630513
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Either is fine for a 5,000 mile OCI


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Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630518
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More important is what air filter will be used. For that I'd go oem or a Fram Extra Guard. With the Fram being preferred.

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630541
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WyrTwister Offline OP
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For the Lacrosse 3.8l , 3000 mile OCI on dino oil .

Thanks , :-)


Wyr
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Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630542
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The end result in the differences in engine wear in real life would be iconsequential. What really matters in that the filter doesn't fail in operation .


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Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630554
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Neither has a bypass valve required so the Napa Silver for me. I just don't like some of the EG 's pictured here. I got the Luber Finer PH477 for about $5 with discount, which is above these filters.

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630562
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I would pick the Super Tech, since it should be exactly the same filter as the NAPA Silver, for less money.


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Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: bullwinkle] #4630641
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Bullwinkle - actually, the NAPA silver has 10% more media than the Proselect. The Proselect and the Super Tech are the same filter AFAIK.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630656
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NAPA Silver


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2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 & Motorcraft 910s
Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630669
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If you want better efficiency and a silicone ADBV (only on the newer EGs, so check ADBV color before buying), then get the Fram over the NAPA Silver.

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630696
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It doesn't matter. As long as the engine sounds good and the filter doesn't fail either will work.

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630700
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Fram has started using silicone ADBV's on even their cheapest filters, so if you can find a PH3387A with the silicone, that would be my choice. Otherwise, Napa Silver.

FWIW, the ST at Walmart is less than $3 is the same as the Napa Proselect smile

Re: Fram PH3387A [Re: WyrTwister] #4630853
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How does the Napa Proselect " rate " compared to the Napa silver ?

Thanks , :-)


Wyr
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