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VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi #4630255
01/10/18 11:20 AM
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Here is the UOA for my 2004 Lexus ES330 running AZ clearance Valvoline Syn Power 20w50 for 5778 mi. Good TBN retention, no sodium and wear metals exual to the recently posted VOA of Shell Rotella T-6 Multi Vehicle 5w30. Engine continues to produce exceptionally low wear metals on Valvoline (and other oils as well) and this 20w50 is no different. This run was done with one of the Rock Auto (counterfeit) Toyota Copy oil filters. Commute is still 110 miles daily and the car averages 22-25k/year.

Enjoy



Luke
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630349
01/10/18 12:21 PM
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It doesnít get any better than that.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630428
01/10/18 01:23 PM
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Very nice report. Thick or Thin oil... work just fine in most vehicles; regardless of what the fanatical extremes would have you believe.


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD: Mobil Super Synthetic 10w30
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630509
01/10/18 02:33 PM
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It appears that the engine did not "suffer" from pumping that "molasses".

Imagine that.

Aluminum took a nice nosedive.


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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630517
01/10/18 02:36 PM
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Hmmmm.. . what was the change in gas mileage during this period?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630519
01/10/18 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
This run was done with one of the Rock Auto (counterfeit) Toyota Copy oil filters.


This engine probably makes so little metal, the need for an oil filter is even questionable hide


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: Linctex] #4630559
01/10/18 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Hmmmm.. . what was the change in gas mileage during this period?


Hard to say for sure, but within the accuracy of my mileage tracking a loss of about 0.22-0.30 MPG averaged over the entire OCI compared to the previous entire OCI.


Luke
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630631
01/10/18 04:03 PM
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20W-50 !!! The engine should have blown up the second it was started with that thick syrup that makes STP oil treatment look like water in comparison. Other that that she is looking good.


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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630662
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Luke: what did you replace oil and filter with?


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: 53' Stude] #4630687
01/10/18 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Luke: what did you replace oil and filter with?


The 20w50 was replaced with the QS Defy from the other UOA I posted with another cheap Rock Auto clearance knock off Toyota filter. The Defy was run with the same filter. Current fill in the car is my remaining 3 quarts of QS Defy 5w20 one Quart of Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5w30 and one Quart of PYB 20w50 with an Affina made Car Quest Red 85348 filter. Will run that for another 5,000 miles. Next up will either be M1 ESP 0w30 or M1 EP 10w30.


Luke
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630694
01/10/18 05:51 PM
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Good to hear smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: 53' Stude] #4630699
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Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted By: car51
Good to hear smile


Next run I might even spin on one of the XG3614 filters I got from you smile


Luke
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630723
01/10/18 06:28 PM
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That would be great. Iím running a EDGE HM 10w40/GTX ultra clean 50/50% blend in the Camry next and TG 4386 for 3rd 5k OCI smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: 53' Stude] #4630786
01/10/18 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
That would be great. Iím running a EDGE HM 10w40/GTX ultra clean 50/50% blend in the Camry next and TG 4386 for 3rd 5k OCI smile


After seeing this stellar report on 20w50 maybe you should run some clearance 20w50 Max Life come summertime!


Luke
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Re: VSP 20w50 04 Lexus ES330 5778mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4630793
01/10/18 07:41 PM
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Valvoline has always had good products. I ran 20W50 conventional in a Ď70 VW Beetle and Ď87 Mazda B 2000. It proved to be a bit thick for the Mazda and I backed off to Valvoline 10W30 conventional.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 & Motorcraft 910s
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