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#4629668 - 01/09/18 07:14 PM Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics?
Corollaman Offline


Registered: 11/20/13
Posts: 210
Loc: Eastern Wa
2012 Toyota Corolla, I drive about 8,500 miles a year. Lots of short trips with some highway on the weekends. In my situation should I just go with whatever is on sale in that grade?

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#4629673 - 01/09/18 07:16 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
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Loc: USA
Any quality synthetic 0w20 will do fine in your Corolla smile

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#4629677 - 01/09/18 07:18 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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M1 EP 0w20 is apparently PAO. Might make no difference but can't hurt to use an oil designed for 15k miles for only a few $ more.

If price shopping, I personally wouldn't drop down to a semi syn 0w20.
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#4629699 - 01/09/18 07:30 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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There are some real differences.
Whether they matter to you or not is another question.
You don't live in a really cold climate, so performance in extreme cold doesn't matter.
You have a very undemanding engine, so finding the best of the best in wear performance and cleanliness doesn't matter.
In short, with your ride in your climate, I'd use whatever.
Most of us have done that for years with good results and no problems to report.
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#4629714 - 01/09/18 07:36 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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Registered: 08/28/17
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Loc: South Texas
we have been running syn blend 0w20 not full syn in my sisters 2011 corolla. Most of her drivetime is idling in traffic anyway. haha
dump out once a year since she doesn't get anywhere close to 10k OCI and the car is happy and running great. Any full syn will work for you.
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#4629718 - 01/09/18 07:39 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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I sure there are differences . Can they be realized probably not . Todays majors put out great oils.
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#4629722 - 01/09/18 07:41 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: CharlieBauer]
Corollaman Offline


Registered: 11/20/13
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Loc: Eastern Wa
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer
M1 EP 0w20 is apparently PAO. Might make no difference but can't hurt to use an oil designed for 15k miles for only a few $ more.

If price shopping, I personally wouldn't drop down to a semi syn 0w20.


I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.

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#4629744 - 01/09/18 08:00 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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Whatever the cheapest 0w20 you can find on sale is will work for you just fine.
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#4629748 - 01/09/18 08:03 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Insertcoolname]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Insertcoolname
we have been running syn blend 0w20 (not full syn) in my sisters 2011 corolla...
dump out once a year since she doesn't get anywhere close to 10k OCI and the car is happy and running great.


I think ANY 0W-20 or 5W-20 will do what you want for 1-year OCI's.

I don't think synthetic is necessary, really
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#4629750 - 01/09/18 08:04 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
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Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.


I'd just get the SynPower, very good stuff. Unless you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates in your spare time then the M1 would be cheaper.

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#4629762 - 01/09/18 08:14 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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Registered: 11/05/11
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I find car is quieter on Pennz Ultra 0w20 and M1 AFE 0w20. Others I've used, Edge Gold 5w20, TGMO 0w20, PP 0w20. Most oils will work fine. M1 EP is a good consideration for a 1 year OCI with a good filter like a Fram Ultra or Napa Gold.
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#4629786 - 01/09/18 08:38 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: SatinSilver]
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Registered: 03/30/14
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.


I'd just get the SynPower, very good stuff. Unless you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates in your spare time then the M1 would be cheaper.


I have SynPower in my Camry now. Walmart didn't have much selection of 0W20. Syn Power was all they had. Only had one jug of ST 10W40HM for my Rav4. Guess they sold a lot over Xmas.
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#4629841 - 01/09/18 09:47 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
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As far as I know, 0w20 has more PAO, 5w20 can be found in synthetic and semi-synthetic flavors. Both options are top notch. Will I run an oil till 7k? no. I would just change it every 4 months if I was in your case.
Use Any from the big brands. If anything, use what your dealer uses or Toyota sales and keep receipts until warranty runs out.
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#4629853 - 01/09/18 10:01 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2750
Loc: Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
2012 Toyota Corolla, I drive about 8,500 miles a year. Lots of short trips with some highway on the weekends. In my situation should I just go with whatever is on sale in that grade?


How many miles on your current oil?
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#4629859 - 01/09/18 10:18 PM Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: FermeLaPorte]
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Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4737
Loc: MTL, CANADA
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
As far as I know, 0w20 has more PAO, 5w20 can be found in synthetic and semi-synthetic flavors. Both options are top notch. Will I run an oil till 7k? no. I would just change it every 4 months if I was in your case.
Use Any from the big brands. If anything, use what your dealer uses or Toyota sales and keep receipts until warranty runs out.


So you recommend he changes oil every less than 3000 miles? Absolute waste of oil. For him, twice a year is overkill.


Edited by Rolla07 (01/09/18 10:18 PM)
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