Recent Topics
Soot loading from DI engines - Size of particles
by StevieC. 09/24/18 09:58 AM
New TV bad picture some channels
by raaizin. 09/24/18 09:35 AM
Crown Victoria HVAC repair
by emmett442. 09/24/18 08:44 AM
2007 Toyota Camry LE Alternator
by maverickfhs. 09/24/18 08:28 AM
AutoSense drying not drying
by Ifixyawata. 09/24/18 08:23 AM
Time for a new Generator... Wisdom desired!
by webfors. 09/24/18 06:36 AM
flat roof weight bearing support
by henni. 09/24/18 06:29 AM
ADD A MARBLE - Make Life Easier
by MasterSolenoid. 09/24/18 06:17 AM
Mobile 1 ESP @ Dowler Karn St. Thomas Ont
by RogerBacon. 09/24/18 05:40 AM
Mobile 1 ESP @ Dowler Karn St. Thomas Ont.
by RogerBacon. 09/24/18 05:37 AM
Direct Injection Valve Cleaning Maintenance
by RayCJ. 09/24/18 05:20 AM
Chattanooga tn ,cycling
by CourierDriver. 09/24/18 04:42 AM
Sunrise, Sunset
by csandste. 09/24/18 02:39 AM
Adding fuel filter- Generator built with no filter
by rubberchicken. 09/23/18 09:57 PM
Clutch Engaging too low
by Spetz. 09/23/18 09:41 PM
SMA - Krown previously, Fluid Film Application
by StevieC. 09/23/18 09:21 PM
First Paint Correction
by RayCJ. 09/23/18 08:33 PM
Newest Members
TCam, OzFrog, Kursk, DMB, bcrossen
66060 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
76 registered members (Billbert, 2004tdigls, BAJA_05, Astro14, 13 invisible), 1,747 guests, and 39 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics290,935
Posts4,852,725
Members66,060
Most Online3,590
Jan 24th, 2017
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? #4629668
01/09/18 08:14 PM
01/09/18 08:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 226
Eastern Wa
Corollaman Offline OP
Corollaman  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 226
Eastern Wa
2012 Toyota Corolla, I drive about 8,500 miles a year. Lots of short trips with some highway on the weekends. In my situation should I just go with whatever is on sale in that grade?

Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629673
01/09/18 08:16 PM
01/09/18 08:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,834
USA
slacktide_bitog Online content
slacktide_bitog  Online Content
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,834
USA
Any quality synthetic 0w20 will do fine in your Corolla smile

Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629677
01/09/18 08:18 PM
01/09/18 08:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,228
CA
CharlieBauer Offline
CharlieBauer  Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,228
CA
M1 EP 0w20 is apparently PAO. Might make no difference but can't hurt to use an oil designed for 15k miles for only a few $ more.

If price shopping, I personally wouldn't drop down to a semi syn 0w20.


It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that ain't so.

- mistakenly attributed to Mark Twain
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629699
01/09/18 08:30 PM
01/09/18 08:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 16,022
OH
fdcg27 Offline
fdcg27  Offline
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 16,022
OH
There are some real differences.
Whether they matter to you or not is another question.
You don't live in a really cold climate, so performance in extreme cold doesn't matter.
You have a very undemanding engine, so finding the best of the best in wear performance and cleanliness doesn't matter.
In short, with your ride in your climate, I'd use whatever.
Most of us have done that for years with good results and no problems to report.


17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629714
01/09/18 08:36 PM
01/09/18 08:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 166
South Texas
Insertcoolname Offline
Insertcoolname  Offline
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 166
South Texas
we have been running syn blend 0w20 not full syn in my sisters 2011 corolla. Most of her drivetime is idling in traffic anyway. haha
dump out once a year since she doesn't get anywhere close to 10k OCI and the car is happy and running great. Any full syn will work for you.


04 Camry 2az-fe 2.4L 204k QS HiMi 10w30
Supertech white can filter
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629718
01/09/18 08:39 PM
01/09/18 08:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 11,855
Idaho
CT8 Offline
CT8  Offline
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 11,855
Idaho
I sure there are differences . Can they be realized probably not . Todays majors put out great oils.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: CharlieBauer] #4629722
01/09/18 08:41 PM
01/09/18 08:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 226
Eastern Wa
Corollaman Offline OP
Corollaman  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 226
Eastern Wa
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer
M1 EP 0w20 is apparently PAO. Might make no difference but can't hurt to use an oil designed for 15k miles for only a few $ more.

If price shopping, I personally wouldn't drop down to a semi syn 0w20.


I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.

Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629744
01/09/18 09:00 PM
01/09/18 09:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,211
Rabbit Creek, Alaska
jayg Offline
jayg  Offline
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,211
Rabbit Creek, Alaska
Whatever the cheapest 0w20 you can find on sale is will work for you just fine.


17 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel- RT6 5w40
'15 Prius C Napa 0w20
'73 240Z 10w30 VWC from '73
'73 Triumph Tiger 750 M1 5w50
'67 BSA 441 Victor Special M1 5w50




Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Insertcoolname] #4629748
01/09/18 09:03 PM
01/09/18 09:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 6,259
Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
Linctex  Offline
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 6,259
Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Insertcoolname
we have been running syn blend 0w20 (not full syn) in my sisters 2011 corolla...
dump out once a year since she doesn't get anywhere close to 10k OCI and the car is happy and running great.


I think ANY 0W-20 or 5W-20 will do what you want for 1-year OCI's.

I don't think synthetic is necessary, really


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629750
01/09/18 09:04 PM
01/09/18 09:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,694
OH
SatinSilver Offline
SatinSilver  Offline
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,694
OH
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.


I'd just get the SynPower, very good stuff. Unless you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates in your spare time then the M1 would be cheaper.

Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629762
01/09/18 09:14 PM
01/09/18 09:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,857
MTL, CANADA
Rolla07 Offline
Rolla07  Offline
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,857
MTL, CANADA
I find car is quieter on Pennz Ultra 0w20 and M1 AFE 0w20. Others I've used, Edge Gold 5w20, TGMO 0w20, PP 0w20. Most oils will work fine. M1 EP is a good consideration for a 1 year OCI with a good filter like a Fram Ultra or Napa Gold.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: SatinSilver] #4629786
01/09/18 09:38 PM
01/09/18 09:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,268
NJ
Leo99 Offline
Leo99  Offline
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,268
NJ
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
I have Mobil 0w-20 extended in there right now. Valvoline Synpower was a little cheaper, thought about trying it next time.


I'd just get the SynPower, very good stuff. Unless you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates in your spare time then the M1 would be cheaper.


I have SynPower in my Camry now. Walmart didn't have much selection of 0W20. Syn Power was all they had. Only had one jug of ST 10W40HM for my Rav4. Guess they sold a lot over Xmas.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629841
01/09/18 10:47 PM
01/09/18 10:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 542
Texas (south)
FermeLaPorte Offline
FermeLaPorte  Offline
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 542
Texas (south)
As far as I know, 0w20 has more PAO, 5w20 can be found in synthetic and semi-synthetic flavors. Both options are top notch. Will I run an oil till 7k? no. I would just change it every 4 months if I was in your case.
Use Any from the big brands. If anything, use what your dealer uses or Toyota sales and keep receipts until warranty runs out.


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: Corollaman] #4629853
01/09/18 11:01 PM
01/09/18 11:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,225
Wet side WA
JohnnyJohnson Online content
JohnnyJohnson  Online Content
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,225
Wet side WA
Originally Posted By: Corollaman
2012 Toyota Corolla, I drive about 8,500 miles a year. Lots of short trips with some highway on the weekends. In my situation should I just go with whatever is on sale in that grade?


How many miles on your current oil?


2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Any real difference between 0W-20 synthetics? [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4629859
01/09/18 11:18 PM
01/09/18 11:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,857
MTL, CANADA
Rolla07 Offline
Rolla07  Offline
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,857
MTL, CANADA
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
As far as I know, 0w20 has more PAO, 5w20 can be found in synthetic and semi-synthetic flavors. Both options are top notch. Will I run an oil till 7k? no. I would just change it every 4 months if I was in your case.
Use Any from the big brands. If anything, use what your dealer uses or Toyota sales and keep receipts until warranty runs out.


So you recommend he changes oil every less than 3000 miles? Absolute waste of oil. For him, twice a year is overkill.

Last edited by Rolla07; 01/09/18 11:18 PM.

2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Page 1 of 2 1 2

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™