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F150 Diesel #4628086
01/08/18 12:47 PM
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supton Offline OP
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Did I miss this? Ward's

Quote:

Ford’s best-selling pickup lineup kicks off 2018 with an all-new powertrain option in the form a first-ever-for-F-150 diesel engine.

Debuting at the North American International Auto Show, the F-150 Power Stroke 3.0L V-6 diesel arrives in dealership this spring as the sixth engine option for the light-duty truck. F-150 gas engines include the 2.7L, 3.5L and high-output 3.5L V-6 EcoBoost twin turbos, and two naturally aspirated options, the 3.3L V-6 and 5.0L V-8.

Ford says the combination of the 250-hp, 440-lb.-ft. (597-Nm) diesel and the standard 10-speed automatic transmission give the pickup a series of best-in-class capabilities: an EPA-estimated 30 mpg (7.8 L/100 km), an 11,400-lb. (5,171-kg) towing capacity and a 2,020-lb. (916-kg) payload limit. Peak torque arrives at just 1,750 rpm.


30mpg, start/stop, mechanical engine fan, 10AT, 11,400 towing, 2,020lb payload. Yeepers.


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 187k, his
Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628106
01/08/18 01:04 PM
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They should sell a bunch of em laugh


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628112
01/08/18 01:15 PM
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Battle Creek, MI
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Amazing how technology has progressed. Still driving around my 95 Powerstroke which is 7.3 liters, makes 210 hp and 425 lb/ft of torque. That was considered leading edge technology back then with the drive by wire throttle and HEUI injectors. Maybe when my motor bites the dust Ford will this engine available as a crate motor.


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628150
01/08/18 01:58 PM
01/08/18 01:58 PM
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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True mechanical engine fan, or electronic control of it?

Either way, I like the sound of it alot!

I'm going to Detroit for the NAIAS again, so I'm sure I'll see it in person and get some good pics.


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628225
01/08/18 03:06 PM
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The diesel power war is expanding into the half-ton segment. Ford just had to outdo Dodge's Ecodiesel numbers, didn't they? I wonder if Ford will botch the viscosity spec on this engine like Dodge did on theirs. If they say 30 weight, just put in a 40 and be done with it.


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: A_Harman] #4628241
01/08/18 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
The diesel power war is expanding into the half-ton segment. Ford just had to outdo Dodge's Ecodiesel numbers, didn't they? I wonder if Ford will botch the viscosity spec on this engine like Dodge did on theirs. If they say 30 weight, just put in a 40 and be done with it.


Ford likes to CLAIM more power. Their claims don't always pan out.

I was surprised by the results of this test. The one rated for the the LEAST amount of torque, actually put the most to the ground.


Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628316
01/08/18 04:21 PM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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This might be the ticket for those who want a diesel truck without the 80 grand price tag (hopefully).


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628332
01/08/18 04:34 PM
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I hope you early adopters do a good job test driving Ford's new diesel. You've dropped the ball on the dual-clutch transmission and that head gasket popping turbo engine in the small Fords was not I high point, either.

I hear that if you're not a fleet customer you'll have to buy one of the upscale fancy models that don't mix well with dirty, greasy old work clothes and then pay another $4K on top of that.

Maybe a Ford fan can post the sticker price total for one of these Saturday night cruisers. I've driven a 2016 King Ranch F-250 and I've got to say it's one really nice ride. Not accounting for fuel I'd rather drive it cross-country that a lot of fancy sedans or SUV's I can think of.

It's often been said if you want to buy a vehicle and drive it for 50 years and a million miles you'd better get a pickup truck.

Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628345
01/08/18 04:59 PM
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Glad to see a small diesel option in the F150. I have a friend that works for Toyota and he was told by Toyota that they were getting a small truck diesel two years ago and they are still waiting for it!

Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628362
01/08/18 05:12 PM
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A diesel with that 10 speed automatic-what could possibly go wrong? I know Ford has dropped all the HD truck manual transmissions, but their LD transmissions have not impressed me much if they're worked hard. Guess if I ever win the lottery and buy a new truck, it'll have to be a Ram 4500 or 5500.


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628383
01/08/18 05:31 PM
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A Highway Near You
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Not a Ford guy per se....hope this kicks GM's [censored] into gear. The big Duramax is way to expensive for anything but a real work truck now.


HDEO in Diesel Engines. No spark plugs here.
Re: F150 Diesel [Re: A_Harman] #4628402
01/08/18 05:49 PM
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Garak Offline
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
The diesel power war is expanding into the half-ton segment. Ford just had to outdo Dodge's Ecodiesel numbers, didn't they? I wonder if Ford will botch the viscosity spec on this engine like Dodge did on theirs. If they say 30 weight, just put in a 40 and be done with it.

They are fumbling with their Super Duty oil spec already. wink

Now, will this actually be on the road? This isn't another one of Ford's little rib ticklers? We've been promised a Ford half ton diesel for over a decade.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: F150 Diesel [Re: supton] #4628405
01/08/18 05:50 PM
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I love the idea of all these 1/2 diesels but how high will the sticker price be? Trucks are getting way to expensive


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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: WiskyBadger] #4628410
01/08/18 05:56 PM
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Wet side WA
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Getting No they have been way to expensive for over 10 years plus!


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In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
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Re: F150 Diesel [Re: OneEyeJack] #4628432
01/08/18 06:09 PM
01/08/18 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack


It's often been said if you want to buy a vehicle and drive it for 50 years and a million miles you'd better get a pickup truck.



Nowadays, the people I see driving luxury trucks(anything above a Lariat/LTZ[and I remember when GM's top trim level was Silverado]) seem to be bros who are too insecure to be caught dead driving a Range Rover or Lexus/Mercedes SUV unless it's his wife's/girlfriend's car. Granted, I was riding in the back of a F350SD Lariat crew cab and they are nice, but not what I expect for $70K nice.

I think the mechanical core of Ford/GM/Toyota trucks will last a decently long time. I have my doubts with Dodge, especially when the newer Ram 1500s share transmissions with Audi/BMW/Land Rover(ZF 8HP series).

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