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#4627333 - 01/07/18 07:09 PM Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue
FlyingVan Offline


Registered: 11/21/16
Posts: 124
Loc: Tennessee
I'm in the transportation industry and I just picked up a truck load of filters at the Fayetteville, NC Purolator plant destined for John Deere. Sitting there getting loaded I saw literally hundreds of pallets of filters waiting pickup marked Motorcraft, Mopar, John Deere.

Then I realized why Purolator doesn't care that a few of us found torn filters. We are a drop in the ocean compared to their business for these major companies. I think that Purolator will continue to not address the tearing issues until one or more of the majors pulls their contract.

It's not only the tearing issues, they also have the cut ADBV problem on some of the higher end filters. As for me, I will not buy any more of any Purolator made filters. I will use what I have left of the Bosch Distance Plus and then I am done.
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#4627338 - 01/07/18 07:14 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
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Registered: 09/26/14
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Until it hurts the bottom line, what is to change anything? Moral reasons? If that were the case, there would be a Puro(or any big boy company) sponsored quick lube attached to some charity organization building.
Off topic, nice accumulation of miles on the sprinter, are those all on one engine?
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#4627340 - 01/07/18 07:16 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
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#4627356 - 01/07/18 07:27 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: Dyusik]
FlyingVan Offline


Registered: 11/21/16
Posts: 124
Loc: Tennessee
Originally Posted By: Dyusik
Until it hurts the bottom line, what is to change anything? Moral reasons? If that were the case, there would be a Puro(or any big boy company) sponsored quick lube attached to some charity organization building.
Off topic, nice accumulation of miles on the sprinter, are those all on one engine?


Yes, engine and transmission are original. I changed the EGR valve once, water pump twice and the driveshaft once, 3 of the 5 glow plugs and 1 injector. Still running strong, however I relegated it to dump duty once a month or so, so I won't put that many more miles on it before it rusts completely.


Edited by FlyingVan (01/07/18 07:28 PM)
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#4627392 - 01/07/18 07:56 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
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Registered: 02/23/09
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That's easy....it's so they have to build them in china....so real money can be saved...
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#4627426 - 01/07/18 08:14 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
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If everyone on BITOG knew they did it on purpose it wouldn't hurt their bottom line. People on BITOG don't comprise 1% of the Purolator market. The other 99% rarely even ever change their oil! In fact I have a feeling that a great percentage on BITOG don't even change their own oil!


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (01/07/18 08:14 PM)
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#4627447 - 01/07/18 08:25 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2634
Loc: MN
Honey Badger don't care... and neither does Purolator.
As long as tears don't cause engines to fail, which they usually don't, this problem is invisible to almost all users of junk Purolator oil filters.
They just cause a little extra wear on the engine that people won't notice.
Therefore, corporate Purolator don't care.

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#4627606 - 01/07/18 10:32 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6186
Loc: Waco, TX
Even when a filter tears on the ends of one pleat,
most of the oil is still going through the rest of the pleats.

Purolators "can" tear. Not all do.
The engines they are installed on seem to make it through just fine.
Until someone can PROVE this causes engine damage, they don't care.
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#4627617 - 01/07/18 10:48 PM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
Joenpb Offline


Registered: 07/04/11
Posts: 336
Loc: San Diego, CA
Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue?


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#4627724 - 01/08/18 04:58 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: Linctex]
ThankYouma Offline


Registered: 12/14/17
Posts: 59
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Even when a filter tears on the ends of one pleat,
most of the oil is still going through the rest of the pleats.

Purolators "can" tear. Not all do.
The engines they are installed on seem to make it through just fine.
Until someone can PROVE this causes engine damage, they don't care.



+1

I personally have never had a problem with Purolator, now I go with the physically largest filter and choose that one. I wouldn't hesitate to buy any of the Puros.

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#4627725 - 01/08/18 05:00 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
MetalSlug Offline


Registered: 07/24/10
Posts: 2636
Loc: vicksburg ms
Also the way I read on tear issue is peoples using way over what the filter recommend to do .
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#4627750 - 01/08/18 05:46 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
MetalSlug Offline


Registered: 07/24/10
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Loc: vicksburg ms
Another thing that bug me is . Peoples here keep recommend fram TG or EG . Why not wix Napa gold .... they pretty much same price or not much different to make a different crazy. I still hate the end cap not metal . I do give fram ultra best oil filter for the performance and moneys. Made me think .... half these peoples work for fram ?

I seen and seen peoples cut open fram oil TG /EG . Itís look sad 10 years ago and itís look sad today . mad



Edited by MetalSlug (01/08/18 05:52 AM)
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#4627757 - 01/08/18 05:56 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: MetalSlug]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17896
Loc: PNW
A TG is more efficient than a WIX/NAPA Gold and about the same price. The EG is the same efficiency and cheaper in price. The non-metal end caps work just fine. Lots of filters don't have metal end caps. The Fram EG and TG end caps have looked pretty good in cut & posts over the last couple years - a lot better than some other brands.

The regular WIX and NAPA Golds are decent filters at 95% @ 20 microns, and the minimun efficiency limit I look for if considering buying oil filters.

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#4627761 - 01/08/18 06:07 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: MetalSlug]
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Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 533
Loc: Georgia
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#4627785 - 01/08/18 06:45 AM Re: Thoughts on Purolator's tearing issue [Re: FlyingVan]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29975
Loc: NY
My thoughts haven't changed, and most likely won't. I'm done with Purolator, there are much better filters for the same or less money. Why would I want to chance it?
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