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Car BARELY started yesterday #4627013
01/07/18 02:32 PM
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FL, USA
gregk24 Offline OP
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Yesterday I went to start my Accord and it was barely turning over, the battery light was flickering while this was happening. It finally started on the third try after an extended turn over. I have been driving the same short trips to work and back daily as usual but it has been in the 20's lately. The battery was replaced about 2 years ago, so its not that old. Could the cold weather + short trips cause this type of behavior? Once I got it started I went on maybe a 10 mile drive to juice the battery up a little and all has been fine since.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627015
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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Could the cold weather + short trips cause this type of behavior?

Yep.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627019
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Since the battery is only 2 years old you probably have a battery that doesn't have the CCA to handle the cold. Should be alright once it warms up.

Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627021
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For those short trips, try to leave off as many accessories as possible. Things like radio, ac, heat, fan, etc. even if a little uncomfortable. It will only be for a short time and the battery won't take such a hit. You can get a free battery test at AA/AZ and they can tell you the CCSs the battery has.

Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627027
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Cold and heat are batteries worst enemies


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: Warstud] #4627030
01/07/18 02:44 PM
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gregk24 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
Since the battery is only 2 years old you probably have a battery that doesn't have the CCA to handle the cold. Should be alright once it warms up.


Yep, these K24's have small batteries from the factory. I am interested in upgrading it next time to the one they fit the J35's with.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: SatinSilver] #4627037
01/07/18 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
For those short trips, try to leave off as many accessories as possible. Things like radio, ac, heat, fan, etc. even if a little uncomfortable. It will only be for a short time and the battery won't take such a hit. You can get a free battery test at AA/AZ and they can tell you the CCSs the battery has.


+1

Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627057
01/07/18 03:02 PM
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Your battery is probably discharged from all of those short trips. Put it on a charger and see if that makes a difference. 20 deg is not that cold, you should have no issues starting on a 2 year old battery.

Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627060
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I would get a cheap charger and charge the battery overnight once or twice a month.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627114
01/07/18 03:52 PM
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Greg, I highly recommend getting rid of that anemic 51R and get a 24F. The 24F fits in there excellent and you'll get 750CCA. 100 more than a Group 35.

The 51R are not known for being stellar batteries.

Remove the plastic beauty bracket from the 51R, take a hammer and bend flush the two stamped metal ears. It is of no value to purchase any of the V6/Group 35 battery plastics. smile



Last edited by redhat; 01/07/18 03:52 PM.

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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627171
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I have done exactly as redhat has suggested.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627183
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Go buy a cheap volt meter from Harbor Freight, they work good and you can keep an eye on voltage.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: rooflessVW] #4627187
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: gregk24
Could the cold weather + short trips cause this type of behavior?

Yep.
Cold weather seriously he lives in Florida unless it was sustained tempature of 0F outside cold really had nothing to do with it you have a bum battery more than likely I would have it load tested itís only way to know

Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627288
01/07/18 06:19 PM
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FWIW, I have always been under the notion that it is the heat that kills the batteries and this deteriorated battery shows itself in cold weather.


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Re: Car BARELY started yesterday [Re: gregk24] #4627293
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Charge it overnight and see how it does


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