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#4626310 - 01/06/18 07:25 PM Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection?
mattri Offline


Registered: 08/21/16
Posts: 25
Loc: Iowa
2017 Ford F150 3.5 NA.

Bought new, has appr 8k miles.

Was originally driving on short, medium and longer trips with no real rhyme or reason, just every day driving plus for work occasionally.

Moved into town, and at about the same time got a work truck.

Now the truck doesn't even get driven every day, and when it does it is for really short trips, with a longer or long drive every now and then.

For example I could not drive it for a day or two, then start it up, drive maybe 2-3 miles to the grocery, shut it down, then 30 mins later start it up and drive back 2-3 miles home. Or on a weekend start up, drive 1-2 miles for coffee, hit the drive through and just go home. Or after basically sitting for a week I could take it on a 3hr highway drive to see family and then home.

So very short, infrequent trips, and occasional longer ones. This has been going on for a couple of months. I make a point of driving around occasionally, take the highway for a bit, go the long way home etc. just so it has a chance to warm up and run for a while.

This is the projected future of this truck.

Suggestions on best protection plan for long term reliability?

Oil?

Filter?

OCI?

Other?

Thanks, Matt.

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#4626319 - 01/06/18 07:32 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
Marco620 Offline


Registered: 02/25/14
Posts: 2186
Loc: Deplorable Kansan,HK fan!
Full Synthetic in Pennzoil, Mobil 1 or Castrol
Fram Ultra,Mobil 1 or Napa Gold
5-7k miles
Buy pure non ethanol from Hyvee or Caseys/QT
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#4626325 - 01/06/18 07:41 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
CharlieBauer Offline


Registered: 03/29/16
Posts: 1177
Loc: CA
Fram Ultra which you can keep on for multiple ocis.

Fuel system cleaner before oil change. Top tier fuel.

UOA at 5k miles / 1 year to determine oci.

Oil is whichever full syn meets the spec with the lowest viscosity.

It's very likely your longer trips resolve any problems that your shorter trips might cause.
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#4626340 - 01/06/18 07:57 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41775
Loc: New Jersey
You need to do a UOA to really determine if fuel,and water are issues. Anything else is speculation.

I'd run a good quality spec oil and then get a UOA after a reasonable time.

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#4626349 - 01/06/18 08:06 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10953
Loc: Idaho
Motor craft oil and filters.
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#4626441 - 01/06/18 09:42 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6150
Loc: USA
Give it one long drive (10+ miles) a few times a month, and follow the OCI schedule suggested by the IOLM. Use any synthetic oil and a Wix/Napa Gold, Wix XP/Napa Platinum, or Fram Ultra for the filter

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#4626472 - 01/06/18 10:29 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: CharlieBauer]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4340
Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer


Oil is whichever full syn meets the spec with the lowest viscosity.

It's very likely your longer trips resolve any problems that your shorter trips might cause.


Since the OP has prioritised protection rather than fuel economy, oil should be whichever (optionally full syn, presumably) that meets the spec with the highest viscosity.

That's basic, and we've been over it many, many times.


Edited by Ducked (01/06/18 10:30 PM)

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#4626489 - 01/06/18 10:57 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
FermeLaPorte Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 469
Loc: Texas (south)
3k miles or every 3 month OCI Motorcraft or Mobil or Valvoline (go American, not Dutch-Arab or British)
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#4626491 - 01/06/18 10:58 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2739
Loc: Wet side WA
Shorter trips equals shorter OCI's if you want to protect your engine. Your UOA will tell you.
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#4626499 - 01/06/18 11:09 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
Shannow Offline


Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 39858
Loc: 'Stralia
Magnatec, or it's big brother Edge, with their "UMA" (Unique Molecular Attractant) type chemistry.

Not saying that other brands don't have similar, these are the only two that I know.

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#4626530 - 01/06/18 11:56 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: Ducked]
CharlieBauer Offline


Registered: 03/29/16
Posts: 1177
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer


Oil is whichever full syn meets the spec with the lowest viscosity.

It's very likely your longer trips resolve any problems that your shorter trips might cause.


Since the OP has prioritised protection rather than fuel economy, oil should be whichever (optionally full syn, presumably) that meets the spec with the highest viscosity.

That's basic, and we've been over it many, many times.


Really no need to be condescending. Maybe better to be open minded?

It's a truck, so the oil specified by the manufacturer already takes into account a usage profile that requires greater load carrying etc etc.

He only does short trips or long highway drives, without passengers or a load.

For short trips, there is absolutely no danger picking an oil towards the thinner end in the recommended grade.

For highway driving, the oil is experiencing almost the least stress it could once it reaches operating temperature. Again, absolutely no danger there picking something towards the thinner end in the recommended grade.
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#4626574 - 01/07/18 03:14 AM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
DdDd Offline


Registered: 06/08/17
Posts: 189
Loc: NY
New car. Do whatever you want. It will break long after you are tired of it. Unless you are keeping it for 17 years.

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#4626589 - 01/07/18 04:49 AM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: CharlieBauer]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4340
Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer
Originally Posted By: Ducked
Originally Posted By: CharlieBauer


Oil is whichever full syn meets the spec with the lowest viscosity.

It's very likely your longer trips resolve any problems that your shorter trips might cause.


Since the OP has prioritised protection rather than fuel economy, oil should be whichever (optionally full syn, presumably) that meets the spec with the highest viscosity.

That's basic, and we've been over it many, many times.


Really no need to be condescending. Maybe better to be open minded?

It's a truck, so the oil specified by the manufacturer already takes into account a usage profile that requires greater load carrying etc etc.

He only does short trips or long highway drives, without passengers or a load.

For short trips, there is absolutely no danger picking an oil towards the thinner end in the recommended grade.

For highway driving, the oil is experiencing almost the least stress it could once it reaches operating temperature. Again, absolutely no danger there picking something towards the thinner end in the recommended grade.


He asks for "best protection".

If he'd asked for "danger-free protection" we'd have to have a go at getting him to define "danger", and maybe "free".

But he didn't.

So we don't.

Which is just as well, really.

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#4626667 - 01/07/18 08:15 AM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
Eddie Offline


Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 9559
Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
I'd use a FORD BLEND OIL AND A FORD OIL FILTER. Follow the Oil life monitor if the vehicle has one and if not, do and oil filter change at 4,000 miles or one year on oil. Try for a 15 mile trip every few weeks, especially in an Iowa winter. Ed
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#4627042 - 01/07/18 02:53 PM Re: Short start/stop/sit trips, best protection? [Re: mattri]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1657
Loc: Crawfordville FL
Best protection would be M1 0w-40 or Castrol 0w-40 or M1 HM 10w-30 with a FRAM ultra filter.

But the OM recommendations will be adequate.
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