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Chance to purchase WWII M1911 #4625119
01/05/18 04:03 PM
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Looks like US Army will be selling a stockpile of the M1911 through a lottery

http://www.guns.com/2017/11/20/congress-...1s-through-cmp/

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625123
01/05/18 04:05 PM
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That's correct. Old news and has been posted on before. If you want one get with your CMP. Cost is gonna be high even for the "fair" condition ones.


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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625124
01/05/18 04:09 PM
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Arsenal rebuilds,,probably over-priced


Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625143
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https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/cmp-plan-sell-army-1911s-reeks-power-trip/

“It’s hard to say exactly, but a good guess will be around $1,000 minimum,” he said. “One reason for this is that the 1911 is a very valuable pistol. Even though they may be shot out or busted up, we don’t want them falling into the hands of people who will just leave them in a glove box. We want a perceived value...

This is turning into a real joke. The main reason I moved to Arizona 26 years ago from Illinois, was to get away from their out of control, oppressive, vastly ineffective run away gun control. The absolute last thing that I need, want, or will tolerate, is going through a, "15 Step Program" that consists of all things, dual background checks of the exact same type, and more paperwork than it takes to purchase a house. Just so I can "qualify" to purchase a "shot out or busted up", surplus 1911 pistol that I myself cannot even select. All because the CMP, "wants to be careful" not to upset anti gun politicians, just in case "something should happen". That's the equivalent of hitting yourself on the head with a hammer, because it feels good when you stop. And it will accomplish almost as much.

They haven't officially set prices yet. But there has been enough written that all comes to the same conclusion...... $1,000.00 MINIMUM. Even if it's 25% LESS than that, it's too much. The 1911 pistol market is almost as heavily saturated as the AR-15 rifle market. With everyone and their brother producing new one's at a blistering rate. With most heavily discounted with sales galore. Keep in mind $1,200.00 buys new a BRAND NEW Colt Gold Cup National Match. So even $750.00 for one of these rattletraps is ridiculous. And remember.... These things were already paid for by the United States Taxpayers once already.

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: Al] #4625168
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Originally Posted By: Al
Arsenal rebuilds,,probably over-priced


I certainly wouldn't want one "rebuilt."


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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625190
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Take a look here. A decent number of hoops to jump through to buy one.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...d_L#Post4595013

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625222
01/05/18 05:29 PM
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This process entered into bizarro land. I think they probably just don't want anyone purchasing them.

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625230
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Forget it and buy a newer Kimber or newer Springfield the metal one used! Save a lot of work and expense to get one shooting right!


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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4625247
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Forget it and buy a newer Kimber or newer Springfield the metal one used! Save a lot of work and expense to get one shooting right!

No one buys a WWII 1911 to shoot


Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: Al] #4625277
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Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Forget it and buy a newer Kimber or newer Springfield the metal one used! Save a lot of work and expense to get one shooting right!

No one buys a WWII 1911 to shoot


That may be, but why would anyone buy one of these? They were used up until the adoption of the M9. So, basically a minimum of 40 years. They were shot extensively, disassembled, reassembled with different parts, and shot more. I had to qualify with these back in the '80's and they were in really bad shape. There is no way they can have collector value.

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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625294
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Why go through all that just to end up with a beat piece for $1000?

Thinking a Kimber Classic is still the way to go if you need a 1911.


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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625427
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They'll all be WWII M1911, but will they be way mismatched?

Lots of companies made them, Remington Rand for sure, Colt, etc.

They could be real awful, compared to a used gun at a gun show you can check out before
buying!

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625463
01/05/18 10:33 PM
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I still think they’ll sell every last one of them, even though I agree with y’all that they’re going to be clapped out, overpriced, and you’ll get tired from all the hoops you’ll have to jump through.

So let me ask you this: Bill said he thought they’d still be way overpriced at $750. Assuming they are all beat up and worn out, what would y’all consider a fair price to be?


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Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625490
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They might be doing a simple economic calculation. They aren't worth much as guns, so they might have to sell them at $100-$200 to sell all of them. But if they price them as historical items, they might sell 10% at $1500 each. Or perhaps 10% each year for the next few years. If it costs them $100 per gun to prep, handle the paperwork and ship each gun, it's clear that positioning them as historical firearms could be much more profitable.

Re: Chance to purchase WWII M1911 [Re: wkcars] #4625523
01/06/18 01:52 AM
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There's a market for M1917 revolvers in the $650-$1500 range, depending upon condition. The 1911 is more iconic. I'm sure they'll sell a ton at $1000.

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