Recent Topics
Driving for Uber as Retirement Gig?
by LoneRanger. 12/19/18 09:53 AM
Follow up on wheel for Chevy Sonic
by WyrTwister. 12/19/18 09:41 AM
Borescope who has one and what is a good one
by Rat407. 12/19/18 09:13 AM
Lubsoil Universal Synthetic Trans Fluid
by GMBoy. 12/19/18 09:00 AM
1994 Civic LX, 1.5L hard to start
by Gito. 12/19/18 08:01 AM
Observation of Mechanics and their tools...
by ToadU. 12/19/18 07:56 AM
Toshiba Laptop HDD Replacement
by Ifixyawata. 12/19/18 07:49 AM
Aisin Warner TF-71SC
by Bailes1992. 12/19/18 06:37 AM
on the Fence about giving up Facebook
by Donald. 12/19/18 06:20 AM
Motorcraft Mercon LV, 15k, 15' Ford Fusion 6F35
by ssamaroo01. 12/19/18 06:14 AM
RockAuto AC compressors
by chrismo. 12/19/18 05:38 AM
Fullers Vintage Ale anyone?
by Lolvoguy. 12/18/18 11:23 PM
Got an alignment
by michaelluscher. 12/18/18 11:18 PM
Castrol Edge 0W-40; 9,762 mi; 2016 Ford Fiesta ST
by asiancivicmaniac. 12/18/18 10:50 PM
Windows Defender Error Code
by ZeeOSix. 12/18/18 10:20 PM
UOA Motul 300V, 5w40, 2013 BMW S1000RR
by Sportbiker. 12/18/18 09:53 PM
Under valve cover pics
by barkingspider. 12/18/18 09:47 PM
Kubota Super UDT2? Anything better?
by Jmoney7269. 12/18/18 09:23 PM
Newest Members
blkvzgo, AdamJames, Firefighter3244, Sportbiker, trollhattan
66721 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
91 registered members (arob85, andyd, beanoil, aquariuscsm, Alfred_B, 9 invisible), 1,816 guests, and 38 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics295,261
Posts4,931,106
Members66,721
Most Online2,553
Oct 27th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Williams floating chamber #4624451
01/05/18 01:23 AM
01/05/18 01:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
Shannow Offline OP
Shannow  Offline OP
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
Linked in the article on grouping analysis (gun, rifleman or both) https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...per#Post4623341

was a link to an old article on the williams floating chamber set-up for 1911s.

Was an arrangement to give the shooter the recoil feel of the .45 chambering but wtih .22s for training.

http://www.thedailytop.com/look-floating-chamber-recoil-booster-colt-ace-fascinating/

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: Shannow] #4624454
01/05/18 01:42 AM
01/05/18 01:42 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 7,204
Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
Linctex  Offline
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 7,204
Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Shannow

Was an arrangement to give the shooter the recoil feel of the .45 chambering but with .22s for training.


How interesting... I didn't think that was really possible.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: Shannow] #4624455
01/05/18 01:49 AM
01/05/18 01:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
Shannow Offline OP
Shannow  Offline OP
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
Look at the drawings in the article, it had a "floating" chamber that applied the gas pressure to an enlarged surface area to accelerate the slide backwards. after some stroke, it hits the stop, and stays with the barrel.

Here's what got me looking for a vid

http://www.rifleman.org.uk/Miniature_calibre_adapters_and_conversions.html#williams_floating_chamber

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: Shannow] #4624472
01/05/18 03:49 AM
01/05/18 03:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
CT8 Online content
CT8  Online Content
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
Yes It works. I have had the privilege of shooting the Colt Ace owned be a Colt collector . The 22 noise with the 45 acp recoil putsa smile onyour face.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: CT8] #4624474
01/05/18 04:08 AM
01/05/18 04:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
Shannow Offline OP
Shannow  Offline OP
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 41,590
'Stralia
CT8, great info, thanks.

looking down the page on the second page using the Browning Machine gun similarly equipped would be a freak-out.

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: Shannow] #4624517
01/05/18 06:00 AM
01/05/18 06:00 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 51
nh
judsonj Offline
judsonj  Offline
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 51
nh
I have an Ace conversion unit that I bought many years ago for my 1911 Colt. It does increase the recoil but it still is not at .45 level. My original floating chamber broke but I managed to find a replacement part which has held up so far. I don't use very much as I now worry the part will break again.

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: judsonj] #4624555
01/05/18 07:05 AM
01/05/18 07:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,161
Glendale, Arizona
billt460 Offline
billt460  Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,161
Glendale, Arizona
Originally Posted By: judsonj
I have an Ace conversion unit that I bought many years ago for my 1911 Colt. It does increase the recoil but it still is not at .45 level. My original floating chamber broke but I managed to find a replacement part which has held up so far. I don't use very much as I now worry the part will break again.


This is the biggest problem with the whole floating chamber design with the Colt Ace pistols. They are prone to breakage. And it's very difficult to find parts to fix them when they do. And with each passing year it becomes even more difficult, as parts for these relatively rare pistols continue to dry up. This is why most collectors who own them, rarely if ever risk shooting them.

And when they are shot, it should be done with the lowest power .22 ammunition that will reliably cycle the action. High performance .22 ammo like Stingers and Velociters should be avoided at all cost. The problem is people who do not understand the inherent weakness of the floating chamber design, will actually do the opposite, and shoot high velocity ammo to increase the recoil effect. Because as you mentioned, they don't produce the same recoil of a .45 ACP 1911. They produce more than most other .22 semi auto's. But not the same.

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: judsonj] #4624645
01/05/18 08:49 AM
01/05/18 08:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
CT8 Online content
CT8  Online Content
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
Originally Posted By: judsonj
I have an Ace conversion unit that I bought many years ago for my 1911 Colt. It does increase the recoil but it still is not at .45 level. My original floating chamber broke but I managed to find a replacement part which has held up so far. I don't use very much as I now worry the part will break again.
It is a collectors item and nict to have for the 1911 lover.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: CT8] #4624679
01/05/18 09:17 AM
01/05/18 09:17 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 51
nh
judsonj Offline
judsonj  Offline
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 51
nh
[/quote]It is a collectors item and nict to have for the 1911 lover. [/quote]

A collector's item? Perhaps I should see what I can get for it.

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: judsonj] #4624726
01/05/18 10:04 AM
01/05/18 10:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,161
Glendale, Arizona
billt460 Offline
billt460  Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,161
Glendale, Arizona
Originally Posted By: judsonj
A collector's item? Perhaps I should see what I can get for it.


If it's in good shape it will be more than you think.

Re: Williams floating chamber [Re: judsonj] #4625982
01/06/18 01:21 PM
01/06/18 01:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
CT8 Online content
CT8  Online Content
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 12,600
Idaho
Originally Posted By: judsonj
It is a collectors item and nict to have for the 1911 lover. [/quote]

A collector's item? Perhaps I should see what I can get for it. [/quote] they weren't cheap several years ago. Probably not enough $$$ to retire early . I have a some what minty 1976 Colt Gold Cup I have had since new and I am told it is collectible, its value seems to be equal to a new 1911.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™