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Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? #4623915
01/04/18 02:19 PM
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Miller88 Offline OP
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As someone who is a big fan of snow tires, I've never been so disappointed by a set. I've had many sets ... Blizzak, Michelin X Ice, Nokian, GT Radial (surprisingly impressive) and Winterfarce. I thought the Winterfarce were about the worst you could get, but they never really left me feeling unsafe and never left me in a parking lot.

I bought my Subaru in late October and had a hard time finding anything in the size I wanted (P215/70-16). Ideally I would have got another set of GT Radial IcePro or some Hakkapellitta , but this is all I could really find.

Complete disappointment. There's ZERO traction on anything hard packed. I may have been spoiled by recent Nokian and the GT Radials, but they do NOT handle slush at all. Traffic was running 45-55 in some recent snow and I could only handle about 30 before the VDC was kicking in and I felt like I was going to spin out. Today, I was activating ABS and VDC in PLOWED PARKING LOTS - front drivers on bald all seasons were out accelerating and brake my Subaru on snow tires.

Absolutely worthless snow tire. Waste of $380. I'm hoping I can offload these on CL for $150 or $200 in the spring or next fall. This time I'll order early enough to get myself a competent set of Nokians or GT Radials.

At this point, I have 2 options:
- Switch back to the factory all seasons.
- Drive my Jeep with NON SIPED mud tires.

These tires are literally bad enough that my Jeep with an auto diff locker and wide mud tires is better on the snow than a Subaru equipped with these tires.

I'm going to drop the pressure to 27 from 32 and see if that helps at all.


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623940
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What's the DOT code on the tires ?

Last edited by Danno; 01/04/18 02:42 PM.

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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Danno] #4623941
01/04/18 02:44 PM
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I don't remember exactly, but they were all made in early 2017. Less than a year old still.


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623945
01/04/18 02:47 PM
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Wow, sorry to hear that but thanks for reporting. Are they the studded or the studdable ones? I'm surprised since the picture of them looks like they would be at least decent. Hard to go wrong with Nokians, even the all weather WR G3 should be good. www.tiresbyweb.com has a decent selection. Astro_14 on here bought some WR G3s for his Tundra from them.



Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623948
01/04/18 02:48 PM
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They are studded, right?


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623956
01/04/18 02:56 PM
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They aren't studded. I expected them to not be the best on hard packed surfaces, but these have no traction at all. My last set of snow tires - unstudded, studdable GT Radials - performed awesome on hard packed surfaces.

These also don't handle slush at all, which is not affected by studs or lack of.

The tread pattern looks great. They are definitely a softer compound. But they definitely don't work in the snow or ice at all.


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623959
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Miller88,
Can you return the iPike to where you bought them and upgrade without losing any money on them?
Tell the shop that the tires are substandard.


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4623970
01/04/18 03:05 PM
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In my experience studdable winter tyres should be studded to have grip as that is the way IMHO how they have been designed to work although studs do not do much in snow.

Pure friction tyres without studs are considerably more softer and have different approach in design resulting that their grip is pretty much the same as with studded tyres since studs are not what they used to be. Frictions tyres do not like driving on ice.

In this winter's big tyre test runner-up was Hankook Winter i Pike RS+ W419D (who comes up with these names?) and was a big improvement over the older type.

This is what this Hankook looks like:



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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Finn] #4623984
01/04/18 03:18 PM
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OVERKILL has them on his Jeep and I thought gave them a decent review. Here's the thread that talks about the tires but you kind of have to look for the posts a bit.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4315070/1




Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4624006
01/04/18 03:38 PM
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studdable tires without the studs are usually useless; they're designed to work with the studs (and the tires themselves have to be hard enough to keep the studs in place for several years)

If you're not going to use studs, just get a studless tire. The Dunlop Winter Maxx is a great choice if you don't want to spends the money on the Nokian Hakka R2 smile

For example, Nokian is smart enough not to offer the Hakka line without the studs--they all come pre-studded. If you don't want studs, there's the Hakka R2.

Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4624023
01/04/18 03:55 PM
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I bought them from discount tire direct, so not returnable.

The plan was a good set of studless or studded, studdable tires. Unfortunately, with as late as I got the car, these were all I could find.

I read Overkill's review and expected the downsides he pointed out. But I didn't expect them to be this bad!


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4624074
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
I bought them from discount tire direct, so not returnable.

The plan was a good set of studless or studded, studdable tires. Unfortunately, with as late as I got the car, these were all I could find.

I read Overkill's review and expected the downsides he pointed out. But I didn't expect them to be this bad!


DTD sucks for selection of winter tires in your size. Try SimpleTire smile

Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4624093
01/04/18 05:06 PM
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I had a set of Hankook's about 5 years back, and same experience. It was an I Pike model similar to yours but older model. Absolute garbage. At the time I didnt have much experience with winter tires but even my almost tread less back Nokian's have better grip than the brand new Hankook's had. I have had mediocre and good tires over time.. and I vowed that I would never buy Hankook ever again. I am a big fan of Nokian for winter tires (minus their cost & difficulty to acquire). Very impressed with a set of Coopers I bought.. but yeah, I am going to always pay good money for great tires.


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Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Finn] #4624095
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Originally Posted By: Finn
In my experience studdable winter tyres should be studded to have grip as that is the way IMHO how they have been designed to work although studs do not do much in snow.

Pure friction tyres without studs are considerably more softer and have different approach in design resulting that their grip is pretty much the same as with studded tyres since studs are not what they used to be. Frictions tyres do not like driving on ice.

In this winter's big tyre test runner-up was Hankook Winter i Pike RS+ W419D (who comes up with these names?) and was a big improvement over the older type.

This is what this Hankook looks like:



Who was the winner of the test?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Hankook I-Pike RW11 - Worst Snow Tire Ever? [Re: Miller88] #4624123
01/04/18 05:45 PM
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Weird. I have a set on my Tundra and thought them fine. Then again I was not happy at all at how it handled with LTX's so anything would be better. Only issue I've noticed is sometimes one feels out of balance; but it sits a lot so it could be flat spotting for all I know.

Maybe my snow is different? shrug

Hmm, now that you say it, I do think TC has been kicking on more than it used to. Then again, I used to always disable it, as the VSC is way too aggressive in this truck. As they're going on 3 years with no special storage, I'm probably coming towards the end. Still, I've been happy.


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