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#4623876 - 01/04/18 01:46 PM New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines?
monster1 Offline


Registered: 01/31/10
Posts: 107
Loc: ca
I've been running the older formula (cj-4)Rotella 15w-40 in my 04 volvo 4.3gxi. It doesnt appear that the new ck-4 rated oil has a sn rating like the cj-4. Is it rated for gasonline engines? Mire importantly, is it ok to run in marine engines?

Thanks

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#4623916 - 01/04/18 02:19 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
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A lot of marine engines are flat tappet cams. Best to have >800 PPM ZDDP. So it's a searching game to find the HDEO with the right numbers.

Off the top of my head, I'd go with Delo 15W-30 SD (severe duty) as the go-to oil for a while. It's very well respected and has >1,000 PPM ZDDP and a food add pak. You motor should be fine on 30 at op temp unless it has a zillion hours on it ...
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#4623972 - 01/04/18 03:06 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: BrocLuno]
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Registered: 02/16/09
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Loc: wv
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
A lot of marine engines are flat tappet cams. Best to have >800 PPM ZDDP. So it's a searching game to find the HDEO with the right numbers.

Off the top of my head, I'd go with Delo 15W-30 SD (severe duty) as the go-to oil for a while. It's very well respected and has >1,000 PPM ZDDP and a food add pak. You motor should be fine on 30 at op temp unless it has a zillion hours on it ...


Here is Chevron 15w30SD ran in a lexus UOA

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4528999/1


Here is a side by side VOA of Rotella 5w40 beloved by all for 4 strokes.. CJ vs CK

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...SM_#Post4490450

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#4623976 - 01/04/18 03:11 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
Linctex Offline


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a 2004 4.3 liter doesn't have a roller cam?!?!
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#4624031 - 01/04/18 04:02 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
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It should have a roller cam.

The Rotella will be fine. It is no longer gas rated, BUT, it will be fine.
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#4624097 - 01/04/18 05:11 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
monster1 Offline


Registered: 01/31/10
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That is correct. It has a roller cam.

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#4624148 - 01/04/18 06:03 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
monster1 Offline


Registered: 01/31/10
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I guess I could switch to T6 5w-40. It's still gasoline rated.


Edited by monster1 (01/04/18 06:04 PM)

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#4624176 - 01/04/18 06:30 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
DoubleWasp Offline


Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5227
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
A lot of this "gas rating" is due to additive level limits to protect catalytic converters. There is nothing in there that will hurt your engine. You have no catalytic converters.

Dump it in, and enjoy.

That's a roller engine for 100% certain.

Stick with a 40 oil. VP stopped using and recommending 30s in that engine for a reason.

If your engine does not have an oil cooler, then definitely stay away from 30. Oil gets nuclear hot in those engines under load.....fast.
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#4624186 - 01/04/18 06:52 PM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
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Originally Posted By: monster1
I guess I could switch to T6 5w-40. It's still gasoline rated.


Nope!
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#4625519 - 01/06/18 01:24 AM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: ammolab]
monster1 Offline


Registered: 01/31/10
Posts: 107
Loc: ca
They must not have changed the info on the website. Oh well. I'll just keep running this or chevron. Whatever is on sale.

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#4625839 - 01/06/18 11:45 AM Re: New formula Rotella (ck-4) for gas marine engines? [Re: monster1]
dwendt44 Offline


Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3931
Loc: Central Wisconsin
I doubt the formula has changed enough to worry about.
The change was the 'rating' over pressure by the government
and MFGs not wanting anything that might foul the converters.
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