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Sludge in oil cap? #4623609
01/04/18 09:56 AM
01/04/18 09:56 AM
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Scituate MA
coopns Offline OP
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Just changed the oil in 09 Tundra. Oil cap and about 1 inch down oil neck had a beige like sludge covering.

Just curious, any thoughts?


Coop
Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623613
01/04/18 10:01 AM
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Is the sludge accumulation new?


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623614
01/04/18 10:01 AM
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That's an emulsion caused by water mixing with oil.

If you are driving short distances and not warming up the engine properly in cold conditions, this can be caused by water condensation.

Or, you may have a water leak, like a head gasket.

Also, check your PVC.


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623616
01/04/18 10:01 AM
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Condensation. Take it for a good ride to get oil hot and re-check it. Check oil on dipstick, if oil isnt cloudy on dipstick its simply condensation. I get same on my corolla. Its not a big deal, water will evaporate once it gets hot enough.

Last edited by Rolla07; 01/04/18 10:02 AM.

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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623618
01/04/18 10:03 AM
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NC
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Those are areas that never see oil flow (until you pour some in), so they never get cleaned. Happens with many vehicles over time. When the fill cap is directly on the valve cover (4-bangers), it's not as bad.

My old 22-RE Toyota had a baffle directly under the cap (on the valve cover) that built up a gross looking mess. The inside of the engine was spotless.

Last edited by fenixguy; 01/04/18 10:04 AM.

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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: fenixguy] #4623627
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Thanks for the replies.

All I do is 25 slow miles a day going 35. Doesn't get much hiway action.


Coop
Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623634
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100% normal for many engines this time of year here in skunk hollow (MA) and other cold areas.

Last edited by Trav; 01/04/18 10:17 AM.

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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: Rolla07] #4623639
01/04/18 10:19 AM
01/04/18 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Condensation. Take it for a good ride to get oil hot and re-check it. Check oil on dipstick, if oil isnt cloudy on dipstick its simply condensation. I get same on my corolla. Its not a big deal, water will evaporate once it gets hot enough.


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623643
01/04/18 10:25 AM
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This happened to me every winter until I switched to full synthetic (PP or M1). It does not happen anymore. It is oil and water mixing to make a "mayo" mix.

Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623655
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Take it out and put some highway miles on it .
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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623663
01/04/18 10:37 AM
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Can be pretty common depending on how oil fill shaped and in cold weather. As others said it is most likely normal condensation.


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623672
01/04/18 10:44 AM
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My 4Runner does it too with the 4.0 V6. Yellow mayo/pudding because of short drives during winter. Doesn't help that we've been below 0 for about 2 weeks now and my commute to work is about 15 mins thru town.


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623754
01/04/18 11:46 AM
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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623761
01/04/18 11:49 AM
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If the oil fill tube extends a few inches above the valve cover, often this stuff will form.


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Re: Sludge in oil cap? [Re: coopns] #4623789
01/04/18 12:10 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Questions like this pop up every wintertime.
As said, it is condensation that forms, and since many times oil temps do not get hot enough, the water accumulates and starts to turn into a pasty sludge, especially in low flow areas.
A good highway drive every week or so (like an hour at constant highway speeds) should clear it up.


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