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PUP---noack & formula updates? #4623476
01/04/18 09:09 AM
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Do we know (from recent VOAs or other) what the current PUP's 5w30 and 0w20 Noacks are?
Since it doesn't appear to go after Dexos, do we know (or will we know) when the latest update/change in formula is/was?

Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623551
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I am sure the specs are very good.


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623582
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PUP is Dexos approved so not sure what you're talking about..

Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623641
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The formulations were changed for d1g2. No voa has been submitted yet


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623720
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Unless I am missing something, it is NOT gen 2 approved. Neither on the PUP website, nor the Dexos site. So why would we think it's been reformulated?

Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623730
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My understanding is that if the dexos license number starts with a D, then it has been updated.


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623764
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Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is not dexos1Gen2 certified...


http://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/



I'd still use it in my GDI/TGDI vehicles since they are not GM.


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623792
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I emailed SOPUS a few days ago about this and their plans with PUP, will share if they reply smile

Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623806
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I should clarify my statement above, all the Shell oils are d1g2 EXCEPT Pennzoil Ultra. Many of us cannot find the stuff anyway so the issue is moot.


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Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623827
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I am sure the answer was they were not going to meet the new requirement with PUP?
I stated in November, when I stocked up on PUP that was on sale for my wife's Impala, if I made the right decision as it didn't meet this new standard. I have enough oil for 2-3 changes now and I remember reading it costs these Co's money, about .6 cents a jug, to have the Dexos label on the outside?

Regardless, since the oil I did purchase was Dexos 1 oil, I am not too worried about it as the D1-G2 oil is not a requirement in her car, only the D-1 is.


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: PimTac] #4623861
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I should clarify my statement above, all the Shell oils are d1g2 EXCEPT Pennzoil Ultra. Many of us cannot find the stuff anyway so the issue is moot.

IIRC a few months back Pennzoil stated they had no plans on dropping the product, if that matters to anyone. Maybe it is a slow seller and they'll get around to the certification when they see fit.


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: lukejo] #4623958
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Do we know what the Dex1gen2 specs mean? ed


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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: Eddie] #4623987
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
Do we know what the Dex1gen2 specs mean? ed




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Next: PP 5w20

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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: demarpaint] #4624392
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
IIRC a few months back Pennzoil stated they had no plans on dropping the product, if that matters to anyone. Maybe it is a slow seller and they'll get around to the certification when they see fit.

That is what happened last time, after all. It makes sense to get the Gold and PP certified, first, as their priority.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: PUP---noack & formula updates? [Re: jdavis] #4631252
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Originally Posted By: jdavis
I emailed SOPUS a few days ago about this and their plans with PUP, will share if they reply smile


FYI - I did hear back from SOPUS on PUP. All they could say is that PUP does not meet D1G2 and there is no ETA for it meeting it.


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