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Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel #4623462
01/04/18 08:56 AM
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First off, this is my first diesel vehicle. So any advice on oil changes would be appreciated.

What have others used and recommended. The manual recommends API CJ-4 and 5w40.

It also says to change it when the light comes on. Any suggestions or thoughts?

Thanks in advance!


Mike
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623471
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I had this engine in a 2013 Grand Cherokee Summit and loved it. They're since changed the oil recommendation since I owned my Jeep which originally required 5w30 Pennzoil Platinum Euro L. For your truck you'd be hard pressed to go wrong with Rotella T-6 or Chevron Delo 5w40. Enjoy your new diesel!


Luke
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Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623477
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Stick with that CJ-4 5w40 recommendation too. Spec changed due to some engines dumping.


07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623492
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API now has CK-4 which I know Rotella T-6 meets and is of course is a full synthetic. The Shell Rotella website claims CK-4 has has better wear resistance than CJ-4. Just sayin.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623547
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But will the warranty mongers care? Is the question.


07 Lincoln Navigator M1 0w-40/FU
68 Charger R/T / Supercharged 440 VR1/DBL7349
07 Ram 3500 4x4 / Cummins 6.7 /DBL7349
17 Maserati GranTurismo Cabrio
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: DoubleWasp] #4623591
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
API now has CK-4 which I know Rotella T-6 meets and is of course is a full synthetic. The Shell Rotella website claims CK-4 has has better wear resistance than CJ-4. Just sayin.

SF


Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
But will the warranty mongers care? Is the question.


I wonder if the owner's manual has been updated since the CK-4 oil hit the
market. I know that the Eco-diesel was not for sale for some time, and maybe the
manual needs to be rewritten to include CK-4 oils. Then again, maybe Ram is playing the Ford Powerstroke game.

I'm going with the need for a new printing. smile


2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 101k miles
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623595
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A quick trip down to the dealership for Mikeintx would be valuable. Find out which oil the dealership is using for oil changes. First of all, if it's a 5W-40, it's probably going to be a synthetic oil. Secondly, if it's a synthetic oil it's probably already going to be meeting CK-4. Now, I haven't checked the web for a 5W-40 that only meets CJ-4 but I'll poke around.

Some folks here think Ram doesn't want CK-4. I am of the opinion they are recommending a minimum of CJ-4 and CK-4 is better. Also, Mike, listen to the dealer's requirement for 5W-40. Don't try out out perform the RAM engineers. Just my two bits.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623650
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I have a 2016 Jeep GC with the 3.0 liter Ecodiesel. I'm currently running Schaeffer's Supreme 9000 5w40 and have been told they have plenty of stock of the CJ spec'd oil. In fact their website still lists 9000 as CJ only with the rest of their CK spec'd oils. Follow the link...

http://www.schaefferoil.com/heavy-duty-diesel-oils.html

Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623688
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CK-4 is backwards compatible just fine, and Rotella will likely have the relevant Cummins and Dodge specifications. Only Ford is concerned about CK-4. Just about every manual in the API regime says to use spec whatever or newer, without any panic about future oils.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623732
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Just checked with my local Dodge (Ram) Dealer. They service the 3.0 liter diesel engine with Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 oil. It is a CK-4 oil. Please go ahead and confirm this with your local dealer's service department.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623794
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The requirement was updated from 5w-30 to 5w-40 due to engine failures.


2007 Crown Vic P71 4.6 ~127K Miles, Royal Purple HPS 5W-30, Royal Purple Filter, Daily Driver.
2010 Escape FWD 2.5 ~89K Miles, Castrol Edge EP 5W-30, Wix Filter, Rented on Turo.
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623865
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For those interested, the 3.0 liter diesel is not a Cummins engine. They are manufactured in Italy by VM Motori, a subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler.

SF


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: Snagglefoot] #4623873
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
For those interested, the 3.0 liter diesel is not a Cummins engine. They are manufactured in Italy by VM Motori, a subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler.

SF


Same company that made the 4 cyl diesel in the old Jeep Liberty. I want one of those.


2017 Ford Fiesta 1.0T - Valvoline SynPower 5W-20, Motorcraft FL910S
1988 GMC K1500 4.3/700R4 - Supertech 15W-40, Fram TG3980
1986 Ford Ranger 2.0 - uhh
Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: Snagglefoot] #4623879
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
For those interested, the 3.0 liter diesel is not a Cummins engine. They are manufactured in Italy by VM Motori, a subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler.


Actually VM Motori is 50/50 FG/GM per the VM website.

http://www.vmmotori.com/la-nostra-storia/vm-motori/la-nostra-storia-2.html

Re: Oil Recommendations for 2017 Ram w/3.0L ecodiesel [Re: mikeintx] #4623942
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The manual also says that it should meet CES 20081. But CES 20081 is essentially just CJ-4 which, like Garak pointed out, CK-4 is backwards comparable to.


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