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1 time use of HM oil #4622881
01/03/18 03:42 PM
01/03/18 03:42 PM
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The Garden State
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I have 6 quarts of Mobil 1 10W-30 HM oil that I'd like to use in our 2017 2.3 EcoBoost Explorer, because I have it left over. This oil has a 3.5 HTHS and a ACEA rating of A3/B3 I believe. Which sounds perfect for a 4 cylinder DI Turbo engine. This would be a 1 time use for this summers trip to FL from NJ., lots of HOT high speed driving. I know what the manual says, and I've been doing even better. But my question is will a one time use of Mobil 1 HM oil cause swelled seals that will leak if I go back to the regular Mobil 1 5W-30. I know what Pat Goss said, yes it will. I tried to email Mobil's email tech address and it was not working. I called the number on the site and I think I got the cafeteria as nobody new anything about oil shrug . I'm just looking to see if a one time use of HM oil causes irreversible damage to the engine seals, that's all, thanks.

Whimsey

Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622888
01/03/18 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Whimsey
But my question is will a one time use of Mobil 1 HM oil cause swelled seals that will leak if I go back to the regular Mobil 1 5W-30?


From everything I have read on this forum, the simple answer is NO.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
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Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622895
01/03/18 03:53 PM
01/03/18 03:53 PM
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Probably OK but try 1-800-ask-mobil. They are normally very helpful.


2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
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10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
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Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622900
01/03/18 03:56 PM
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I wouldn't think it would affect your seals at all being they should still be in good shape.


2003 Mercury Grand Marquis. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2008 Sebring Hardtop convertible. PP HM 5w-30 and Fram Ultra
2006 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT. Motul 7100 10w-40 and K&N
Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622917
01/03/18 04:16 PM
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I can't say for your vehicle specifically, but I've used the HM version periodically when the normal 5W30 or 0W30 AFE was out of stock at Walmart, went back to the non-HM after that and no leaks. If you're really worried (I wouldn't be), use it up slowly in your lawn mower, or 1 qt at a time with each change on the Explorer.

Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622931
01/03/18 04:37 PM
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If you run HM oil, and the soften seals start leaking (its really 50/50) whether seal swell agents actually cause a leak. If you weren't already leaking .

Seal swell agents will soften and swell any seals, they touch. It wont hurt to go back to normal oil though, what ever damage will already have been done..

IMO , don't even run a seal swell agent unless , you are trying to fix a leak.

Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622933
01/03/18 04:38 PM
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You should be fine.


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Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622936
01/03/18 04:40 PM
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Those seals are so new, it won't do anything. They have to have lost plasticizers before the additives start to do much. Yours will just shrug it off and cruise on smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4622943
01/03/18 04:53 PM
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And if your modern seals are made of Viton (fluoroplymer) then it won't make a fig of difference either way, new (hurting) or old (helping) as Viton is very chemically stable.


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Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4623058
01/03/18 06:56 PM
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If in doubt, that M1 10w30 HM would be a great solution for all of you outdoor power equipment needs.


'01 Volvo V70XC, 232k, 0W-40 M1
'16 Accord, 21k, 0W-20 M1 EP
Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4623121
01/03/18 08:05 PM
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I use Valvoline HM Synthetic once per year as my winter oil and go back to conventional for the rest of the year and have had no problems with leaks or consumption in a 99 Explorer .

Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: Whimsey] #4623185
01/03/18 09:35 PM
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It won't hurt it. Great choice for that motor.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4623235
01/03/18 10:19 PM
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^^^^^

I agree with SilverFusion.

And Whimsey get ready for a big whomping storm especially if you are near the Atlantic coast.

Last edited by bbhero; 01/03/18 10:20 PM.

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Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: bbhero] #4623240
01/03/18 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: bbhero
^^^^^

I agree with SilverFusion.

And Whimsey get ready for a big whomping storm especially if you are near the Atlantic coast.


Poor atlantic maritime region. They take the brunt of it, all the time. The storm you're talking about is being called a "Cyclone bomb" what a ridiculous time to live, where the weather is drunk af and the descriptors are more and more war-related...just a week ago they had to deal with hurricane force winds---- in the absence of a hurricane.


Scambling for solutions is a hopelessly futile endeavour and potentially dangerous, without first coming to a solid, personal understanding of the problem. Beware riding the ideological hobby horse.
Re: 1 time use of HM oil [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4623245
01/03/18 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
It won't hurt it. Great choice for that motor.

+1 And i will add that continued use will not cause harm to or cause seal leaks. HM oils do not contain seal sweller's but rather seal conditioners. Causing a seal to "swell" would be a sure fire way to break it down and cause leaks. Conditioners keep seals pliable and therefore in good shape longer.


04 Chevy Colorado 3.5 I5 5w-30 OEF
07 Honda Element 2.4 I4 5w-20 OEM
10 Nissan Rogue AWD 2.5 I4 5w-30 OEF
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