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Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory #4621230
01/01/18 11:00 PM
01/01/18 11:00 PM
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Robenstein Offline OP
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Well it seems like having the Colt Mustang, Kimber Micro, and Sig 238 didn't create a crowded enough market for a 380 chambered micro 1911 type pistol.

Springfield Armory just introduced their 911...which is so similar in even aesthetics to the Sig to make you do a real double take. At least the grips don't have "Grip Zone" on them.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/01/daniel-zimmerman/springfield-announces-new-911-380-pistol/


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Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4621234
01/01/18 11:14 PM
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Can't justify it when my Glock 43 is only slightly bigger but comes in 9MM. I did the whole 380 thing back when the LCP was hot news, but small gun = snappy gun.

Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4621263
01/02/18 12:29 AM
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Itll be interesting to see a full comparo article and/or video between this and the Sig. That G10 trigger shoe sounds interesting. I dont care much for the plastic trigger on my P938. Feels cheap.


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Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Reddy45] #4621291
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
but small gun = snappy gun.


AND HOW!

I have a P3-AT, and I won't let just anyone shoot it.

Lots of women buy them "for their size",
then find later that they absolutely HATE shooting it.


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Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Linctex] #4621375
01/02/18 08:00 AM
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I had a P238 and it was the only 380 I've ever owned with an easy to rack slide. Also it had less kick than my Kahr 380. Sold it as I am not comfortable carrying cocked and locked. I've had several Sigs and think highly of their products and service. I'm sure the SA will also be a good handgun.


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Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4621471
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Al Offline
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Just another "Me Too" gun. shrug


Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4621479
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I'm finished with real compact pistols that don't fit my hand And frankly mid size guns really don't show or "print" anymore then a real compact gun. I am happy with the size of my Ruger SR 9C mid size and my big hand totally fits the grip with the magazine extension. It may not have the flash or fit and finish of a Sig or whatever but it works and that's what matters!

Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4621518
01/02/18 10:40 AM
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I was surprised as well when I got the e-mail from SA touting a new 380. It just doesn't seem like a super lucrative caliber, especially with the other quality models already on the market. Maybe it's lining them up for other calibers, like a 9mm version like the P938.

Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Al] #4621536
01/02/18 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Al
Just another "Me Too" gun. shrug


CCW pistols are the hottest segment in the industry right now. Its the only segment that really hasnt slowed down post-MAGA. So, were seeing more products come out that fit that niche.

The P238 & P938 are great Guns, by all accounts, and imitation is the highest form of flattery. So its no surprise that they made it.

My opinion, its a good thing. The more choices, the better. Competition among the OEMs forces them to make better products.


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Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: john_pifer] #4621599
01/02/18 11:45 AM
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Al Offline
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Originally Posted By: john_pifer

My opinion, its a good thing. The more choices, the better. Competition among the OEMs forces them to make better products.

For sure


Re: Look at the new Sig 238 from Springfield Armory [Re: Robenstein] #4641115
01/20/18 05:01 PM
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A couple of years ago the rifle range I belonged to had a bug gun match and I knew how the actionshooters shot. Even the best shoters had problems with the small pistols levers and buttons and safeties. Sig 238 was hated after the match.


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