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Kia Alternator... Not again. #4618475
12/30/17 05:17 AM
12/30/17 05:17 AM
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My wife drives a 2009 Kia Sorento. This past summer, with about 90,000 miles on the car, the alternator stopped charging. The rebuilding shop I deal with got me a brand new replacement and I installed it. It is mounted between the block and chassis, under the driver side head.
Big pain the rump. Anyway, it worked great. Until last night.
My wife comes home from work and says her car has no brakes. What? The brake light is on and so is the battery light. Nope, that means the alternator isn't putting out. I checked it with my Fluke and it sure isn't.
It's 18 degrees and I recently moved into a new house with no meaningful garage. I'm building a new one next year but for now, out in the cold to remove it and the new one (warranty) won't be here until Tuesday.
I hate winter.

Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618489
12/30/17 06:10 AM
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18 degrees?

Charge the battery, take it to a mechanic. Your time (and fingers!) Are worth more than a few dollars.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618492
12/30/17 06:19 AM
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It's ok. I have my Mechanix gloves. I used to repair diesel gensets in cold (and hot) weather. Just a big pain in the neck more than anything.
Worst part is it's a holiday weekend and not getting the new one until Tuesday. We don't do so well with one car.

Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618517
12/30/17 07:18 AM
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Just curious, what brand was the new one?


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Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618520
12/30/17 07:29 AM
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When I get it out I'll post the name. Can't think of it now. It's the oem stuff from Kia. Basically, Korean AC Delco.

Back in August, I tried to use a rebuilt from Autozone and a really good old school parts store. No one had the correct replacement. Went to the rebuilder and he said it was only available as the new, factory replacement. It was EXACTLY the same as the original.

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Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618529
12/30/17 07:45 AM
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OK. That's all I wanted to know. I have always gone with factory OEM alternators. Well, except the time the van alternator broke while traveling on vacation...


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618548
12/30/17 08:11 AM
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The part that kills me is we used to own a small starter and alternator rebuilding shop alongside the diesel generator repair shop.
When Mr Bill, the old timer that did all of the rebuilding passed on, we sold it off and started buying from the guy my brother still deals with today, the guy who got me the factory replacement unit. If Mr Bill was still with us, there isn't a doubt in my mind I'd have a spare voltage regulator and this would be fixed today.
Well... Had coffee. Time to suit up and go pop it out. Maybe I'll get lucky and find a good alternator and some other simpler cause.
Probably not though.

Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618581
12/30/17 08:43 AM
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Mando is Korean and builds alternators. Used on Bobcats and Mercruiser marine and other engines.

Maybe used in Kia?

They are not the best and a royal PIA to rebuild. I swapped one out in my Mercruiser for a Delco.


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2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
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Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618586
12/30/17 08:48 AM
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You might want to watch this video about a 2007 Sorento alternator. There is a fuse in the main line from the alternator and corrosion is common in the wires. Perhaps this explains the rapid failure of the new alternator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tOylWpilaM

Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618623
12/30/17 09:36 AM
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The alternators on my Hyundais are Valeo. FWIW.


2008 Hyundai Accent 1.6L 5 sp manual hatchback
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Track 2L Turbo 6sp manual
Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: WobblyElvis] #4618627
12/30/17 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
You might want to watch this video about a 2007 Sorento alternator. There is a fuse in the main line from the alternator and corrosion is common in the wires. Perhaps this explains the rapid failure of the new alternator.

Having a new OEM fail in such a short time has my attention. No way it should happen this soon. As per above, makes sense to investigate.


2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
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Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618633
12/30/17 09:51 AM
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Granted, it was 30 yrs ago on a vehicle cruder than most old OPE. But when the Bosch alternator died on my Willys Overland do Brasil. I replaced it with a one wire Delco.


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
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Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: NYEngineer] #4618667
12/30/17 10:22 AM
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All of my alternators always fail in the worst possible locations at the worst possible times.

I keep a spare in my F150 truck & Mustang at all times. 50% off day at pick-n-pull gets a spare for $17.50


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: Linctex] #4619203
12/30/17 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
All of my alternators always fail in the worst possible locations at the worst possible times.

I keep a spare in my F150 truck & Mustang at all times. 50% off day at pick-n-pull gets a spare for $17.50
Heh heh, A JY part is reassuring. You know it worked at one time. With new or Rebuilt, you don't get that. grin2


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

1994 Ranger ,the Rat, 5w30 dino, STP filter

'16 Camry SE, Valvoline HM 0w20 and OEM filter
Thick oil is better grin2
Re: Kia Alternator... Not again. [Re: andyd] #4619228
12/30/17 09:23 PM
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Waco, TX
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Originally Posted By: Linctex
All of my alternators always fail in the worst possible locations at the worst possible times.

I keep a spare in my F150 truck & Mustang at all times. 50% off day at pick-n-pull gets a spare for $17.50
Heh heh, A JY part is reassuring. You know it worked at one time. With new or Rebuilt, you don't get that. grin2


It has got me "out of a jam" more than once!!

Like I said.....

"All of my alternators always fail in the worst possible locations at the worst possible times"

All they need to do is get me home.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
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