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Castrol Activ 4t #4618131
12/29/17 07:17 PM
12/29/17 07:17 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
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Australia,Sydney
sanoptic Offline OP
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Australia,Sydney
Just my experiences with oils....

Last 5 years or so been using semi or full syn motorcycle oils in my Yamaha XJR1300.
Brands include Motul, Yamalube, Silkoline & Motorex all 10w40 & none of them offered good gear changes & smooth clutch action after about 2k miles.
Changed over to cheap mineral Castrol Activ 4t 15w50 & wow just passed 6months & 5k miles & bike still shifts great & clutch control very good.
At $30 for 4lt against up to $100 for the others i guess its an easy choice now...lol

Here in Australia it is now summer & my area see +40c ( over 100F ) days often.Xjr1300 is a 4cyl aircooled bike which runs extremely hot in our summers yet this cheap as Castrol works absolutely fine.
Most auto parts stores stock this oil so no more dealer prices too....yay!
Cheers

Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618151
12/29/17 07:37 PM
12/29/17 07:37 PM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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Glad to hear you can save some $$$$$ down under.


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618177
12/29/17 07:51 PM
12/29/17 07:51 PM
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VA
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Happy to hear it, wish it would be summer here to ride too!

Ride safe.


2006 Civic EX 202K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 180K/AT
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618181
12/29/17 07:54 PM
12/29/17 07:54 PM
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Tasmania, Australia
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Tasmania, Australia
I used to use that same oil in the Suzuki Bandit 1200 I owned a few years back - like your XJR, a big old air cooled lump - and I found it worked very well too. That fact it's cheap is a bonus!


MY16 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 diesel, 56,000km - Castrol 5w30
2006 Ford Falcon 4.0, 138,000km - Penrite Vantage 15w40, Ryco filter
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618306
12/29/17 09:51 PM
12/29/17 09:51 PM
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New Zealand
Silk Offline
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New Zealand
I keep seeing it for good prices, and it's what Castrol recommend for my BMW...but it doesn't need specific motorcycle oil, so tend to ignore oils with pictures of a motorcyle on them. One day, right time, right price....


1987 BMW R65 - Aegis SAE30
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618441
12/30/17 03:01 AM
12/30/17 03:01 AM
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Posts: 4,655
Down Under
SR5 Offline
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Good to hear about the Castrol Activ 4t 15w50, I see it around everywhere.

In my air-cooled motorcycles I also ran thick mineral oils, and I too found they worked well. My old thumpers liked Penrite HPR 30 a 20W60 mineral oil. Being also for cars (SM & A3/B3) it was affordable, but it was also JASO MA rated for motorcycles, plus lots of zinc. Penrite is good like this.

Thanks for posting about the Activ 4t, I may give it a try one day.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: Silk] #4618445
12/30/17 03:13 AM
12/30/17 03:13 AM
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Down Under
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Originally Posted By: Silk
so tend to ignore oils with pictures of a motorcyle on them.

So do I Silk and all my bikes had wet clutches. Special bike oils can be expensive and don't always live up to their claims, as the OP points out.

Thick oils always work well for me. I ran Penrite 20W60 mineral in my air-cooled bikes and Castrol Edge 10W60 synthetic in my liquid cooled bikes.

I ran Castrol Edge 10W60 for close to ten years straight, changing every 10 000KM, in my CBR600 without any clutch or engines issues. Sold it running like a top with 100 000KM on it and everything still original.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618834
12/30/17 01:18 PM
12/30/17 01:18 PM
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The Canyons
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No comment other than to say I regret selling my old FJ1200, upon which your XJR1300 engine is based. If they had sold the XJR1300 in the States, I would've bought one, just because of the memories of my FJ1200.

Enjoy it.

Last edited by 02SE; 12/30/17 01:28 PM.
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: 02SE] #4618922
12/30/17 03:38 PM
12/30/17 03:38 PM
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Down Under
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Originally Posted By: 02SE
my old FJ1200,

Yep, the old FJ1200 were great bikes.

Back in that era all the cops here rode around on XJ900 with the shaft drive.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4618952
12/30/17 04:02 PM
12/30/17 04:02 PM
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New Zealand
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All the FJ's were bullet proof, the cops had the XJ750 shaft drive here. I did an engine swap on an ex cop XJ - it was stuck in 1st gear. Taking the bottom plate off I could see the chain guide for the piggy back alt had broken and locked into the shift drum. It was jammed in, and even turning the bike upside down and giving it a shake wouldn't be able to remove it. The owner wasn't going to pay for an engine strip just to replace a chain guide (and everything that would crop up) so fitted another engine. I had the old engine for a few years, then sold it to someone for a TQ midget...they chop the gearbox off. Just a strange failure on an otherwise strong engine.


1987 BMW R65 - Aegis SAE30
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4619095
12/30/17 06:51 PM
12/30/17 06:51 PM
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Texas
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I'm using that oil right now in my Massimo UTV and I am also very happy with the performance. It's cheap to buy at WalMart as well.

Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4619098
12/30/17 06:54 PM
12/30/17 06:54 PM
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Down Under
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Down Under
You know a new XJ 750 / 900 with fuel injection instead of carbs, but with all the rest the same, air-cooled & shaft drive. All at a decent low price new, would make a lot of sense as a everyday retro bike.

Is there any reason why they can't ?

The XJR1300 inherits the old FJ1200 engine.

They have started selling the old SR 500 / 400 air-cooled single as a new bike again, just with FI. It's still kick start only with a 2 valve head.

Those old Yamaha bikes were magic fun and very easy to keep going.


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Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4619146
12/30/17 07:39 PM
12/30/17 07:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2009
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Australia,Sydney
sanoptic Offline OP
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Australia,Sydney
Unfortunately Yamaha have discontinued the XJR1300's due to not passing Euro 4 emissions.
The only ones still available are whats left at dealers.

I'm in my mid 60's & the bike i have now will be my last....shd be reliable for another 20 years.

Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: sanoptic] #4619243
12/30/17 09:48 PM
12/30/17 09:48 PM
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New Zealand
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I expect my 1987 BMW to be reliable for another 20 years too...and I expect to be able to buy parts for it for another 20 years too.


1987 BMW R65 - Aegis SAE30
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Castrol Activ 4t [Re: Silk] #4619770
12/31/17 02:19 PM
12/31/17 02:19 PM
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Texas
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Originally Posted By: Silk
I expect my 1987 BMW to be reliable for another 20 years too...and I expect to be able to buy parts for it for another 20 years too.


That statement is probably only true for BMW and Harley Davidson and perhaps a few others but not for any Asian bikes.

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