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#4617946 - 12/29/17 04:41 PM S&B dry performance air filter
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Registered: 01/17/12
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Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
I am getting a performance intake for my 2016 5.0 F150 from JLT. The filter is an S&B dry conical filter. Their efficiency ratings look great. I am adding a prefilter to it as well to try and keep it cleaner longer. Now S&B and JLT both say that you can clean it out by tapping it or using compressed air from the inside out to extend the life of the filter. I thought that this was bad as it would make “bigger holes” for more dirt to get through. What are your thoughts on this?

S&B intake efficiency ratings

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#4617967 - 12/29/17 04:56 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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I think it's a waste of effort/time/money/expectations.
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#4617969 - 12/29/17 04:57 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
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Loc: Taiwan
If you blow holes in it that's bad. If you blow dirt off it thats good, after a certain point.

So you should be careful. Isn't this fairly obvious?

I cant see how you could make the microscopic pore/matrix size bigger by blowing, much less by tapping.

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#4618005 - 12/29/17 05:22 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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How much performance does it add over stock filter/intake?
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#4618006 - 12/29/17 05:23 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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I just find it weird for the filter manufacturer to be recommending this procedure.

It is nice to have a performance air filter that’s actually efficient while offering more airflow. Most like K&N and AFE tend to have much lower efficiency ratings. AEM and S&B tend to catch as much dirt as a normal paper filter.

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#4618009 - 12/29/17 05:26 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: Rolla07]
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This is the power gains from just the intake on a stock truck.

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#4618029 - 12/29/17 05:45 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
BobFout Offline


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The test data they reference is from 2009.

These are from 2015.

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/rayzazoo05/panel%20filter_6.png~original

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=381850&d=1424650148


Edited by BobFout (12/29/17 05:46 PM)
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#4618040 - 12/29/17 05:54 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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Just tap lightly on outside. I use vacuum and just do on outside. Dry filter with prefilter is a win win.
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#4618048 - 12/29/17 06:01 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: skyactiv]
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Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I think it's a waste of effort/time/money/expectations.



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#4618056 - 12/29/17 06:10 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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Registered: 01/17/12
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Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Yea there is power to be had with some. Not all though. Oddly enough the big name intakes usually do nothing but make noise... some have been proven though. Nothing huge though. And they are a lot of money for the little gains. But sometimes every little bit helps!

Great links BobFout. But they don’t show the S&B. Surprised that they were all that efficient.

I’m hoping to get some good life out of the filter with the pre filter as they are pretty pricey.


Edited by advocate (12/29/17 06:12 PM)

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#4618059 - 12/29/17 06:12 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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Registered: 01/17/12
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Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

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#4618267 - 12/29/17 09:11 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
hemitruck Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 374
Loc: new jersey
wouldn't the pre filter restrict the airflow?

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#4618268 - 12/29/17 09:11 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
hemitruck Offline


Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 374
Loc: new jersey
wouldn't the pre filter restrict the airflow?

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#4618312 - 12/29/17 10:00 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: AntsinmyEyes]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
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Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: AntsinmyEyes
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I think it's a waste of effort/time/money/expectations.






I think that guy is maybe a bit short to be working on bulbous American trucks, but maybe they compensate in some way?

Re the air intake, I'm afraid my bro-banter-bollocks-intolerance overcame my mild curiosity about 5 minutes in, so I didn't learn anything.

Life is also too short


Edited by Ducked (12/29/17 10:04 PM)

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#4618324 - 12/29/17 10:17 PM Re: S&B dry performance air filter [Re: advocate]
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Registered: 01/17/12
Posts: 117
Loc: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
I think the pre filter is made to be pretty free flowing. It just keeps the bigger things from getting trapped in the pleats.

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