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#4615835 - 12/27/17 02:12 PM Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota
kam327 Offline


Registered: 07/28/12
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/12...s/#more-1606086

Wow, what a reversal from not too long ago. Six of the top seven cars and crossovers dumped into rental fleets are Nissans & Toyotas. Only the Ford Fusion cracks the top 10.
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#4615845 - 12/27/17 02:18 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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Registered: 01/24/08
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The Mazda 6 used to be popular with rental fleets until they put the big inner-city wheels on them. Which screams, look at me, look at me! Mazdas are decent if you plan on dumping them prior to 150k miles. Even then that might be pushing things.

Originally Posted By: kam327
I picked up a '13 Durango with the Pentastar last week. The more I've driven it (only abt. 300 miles so far), the more I'm bothered by the engine noise on moderate or greater acceleration. All the magazine reviews I've read prasied the NVH overall. But I rented a Traverse and Enclave a month ago on a family trip and both seemed quieter and more refined in terms of engine noise & vibration from what I remember.

Anybody else driven a Pentastar-equipped vehicle and another V6 vehicle in the same class and noticed the same thing? Or the opposite?

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#4615851 - 12/27/17 02:22 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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I'm surprised there aren't more rentals on there.

Nissans are either short term rentals (enterprise, budget) or long term rentals (lease).

I don't think anyone actually buys one.
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#4615860 - 12/27/17 02:33 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: SatinSilver]
kam327 Offline


Registered: 07/28/12
Posts: 396
Loc: Tampa
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
The Mazda 6 used to be popular with rental fleets until they put the big inner-city wheels on them. Which screams, look at me, look at me! Mazdas are decent if you plan on dumping them prior to 150k miles. Even then that might be pushing things.

Originally Posted By: kam327
I picked up a '13 Durango with the Pentastar last week. The more I've driven it (only abt. 300 miles so far), the more I'm bothered by the engine noise on moderate or greater acceleration. All the magazine reviews I've read prasied the NVH overall. But I rented a Traverse and Enclave a month ago on a family trip and both seemed quieter and more refined in terms of engine noise & vibration from what I remember.

Anybody else driven a Pentastar-equipped vehicle and another V6 vehicle in the same class and noticed the same thing? Or the opposite?


I guess this is some pathetic dig at me after I criticized the new Camry in another thread and your use of Consumer Reports as your sole source of automotive information? Do me a favor and take digs at me over on that thread - keep this one on topic.

What is the point of quoting my post on the Durango from literally over 4 years ago? I really don't get it.

By the way I've been in many rental lots and don't recall seeing any Mazdas. The last one I was in had two choices in the midsize sedan aisle: an Altima and an Optima. That was a sad day.
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#4615864 - 12/27/17 02:42 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: Miller88]
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Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm surprised there aren't more rentals on there.

Nissans are either short term rentals (enterprise, budget) or long term rentals (lease).

I don't think anyone actually buys one.


Probably pretty much correct. I know a few people who like buying Nissans though. Two of my neighbors just bought new Nissan trucks. One of them traded in their Toyota Sequoia for a Nissan Armada. I was a little surprised by that.
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#4615865 - 12/27/17 02:42 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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Registered: 01/24/08
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Originally Posted By: kam327
I guess this is some pathetic dig at me after I criticized the new Camry in another thread and your use of Consumer Reports as your sole source of automotive information? Do me a favor and take digs at me over on that thread - keep this one on topic.

What is the point of quoting my post on the Durango from literally over 4 years ago? I really don't get it.

By the way I've been in many rental lots and don't recall seeing any Mazdas. The last one I was in had two choices in the midsize sedan aisle: an Altima and an Optima. That was a sad day.


I don't recall you from the other thread, of course with such a forgettable username and insightful posts it's no wonder.

I had a Mazda 6 rental years ago and thought it was cheap and seemed made of tin. I remember at the time thinking how can this get above average reviews from C&D. You must not get out a lot if you don't see them.

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#4615868 - 12/27/17 02:43 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: Miller88]
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Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1059
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm surprised there aren't more rentals on there.

Nissans are either short term rentals (enterprise, budget) or long term rentals (lease).

I don't think anyone actually buys one.


Whole article here, maybe?
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/12...s/#more-1606086

My wife's 2017 Chevy Impala is a rental return. We purchased it with only 20,000 kms on it from a Ford dealership. When we were looking, lot of different dealers had these on their lots, Hyundai, Kia, etc.

We were nervous, no doubt about it, but all we talked to mentioned they only pick the best ones as no one will purchase one if it has a Carstar record or other info about damage/paint issues.
I went over our car with a fine tooth comb, and other than a retouched paint chip here or there, it is in excellent shape.
Mind you, we have no idea how it was run, but with full warranty still remaining, we took a chance based on the price of it.

Like the dealer said where we purchased it from, things are real easy to find out on the internet today and we have a reputation to uphold.
So far so good, but not a lot of miles on it yet.
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#4615875 - 12/27/17 02:46 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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Get a fleet of manual transmission Mazdas, Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans. Thank me later.
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#4615881 - 12/27/17 02:50 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
Claud Offline


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Posts: 593
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Ho much are Nissan making on fleet sales?. If it's a decent margin then it won't bomb the residuals like the Mopar and Chevrolet cars that were sold almost at cost.

Claud.

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#4615884 - 12/27/17 02:51 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: irv]
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10163
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: irv
My wife's 2017 Chevy Impala is a rental return. We purchased it with only 20,000 kms on it from a Ford dealership. When we were looking, lot of different dealers had these on their lots, Hyundai, Kia, etc.


irv,

The 2017 Impala comes in first place in it's category for full size cars in CR's 2018 Buying Guide plus many other publications. Second is the Kia Cadenza followed by the Toyota Avalon. Those are the top three and the only ones on their "recommended" list for that category. thumbsup approved

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#4615894 - 12/27/17 02:58 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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This is turning into a brand war real quick.
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#4615898 - 12/27/17 02:58 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: SatinSilver]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1059
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: irv
My wife's 2017 Chevy Impala is a rental return. We purchased it with only 20,000 kms on it from a Ford dealership. When we were looking, lot of different dealers had these on their lots, Hyundai, Kia, etc.


irv,

The 2017 Impala comes in first place in it's category for full size cars in CR's 2018 Buying Guide plus many other publications. Second is the Kia Cadenza followed by the Toyota Avalon. Those are the top three and the only ones on their "recommended" list for that category. thumbsup approved


Great to hear, SS. cheers

Thanks for letting me know!
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#4615909 - 12/27/17 03:05 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: Miller88]
SeaJay Offline


Registered: 03/05/15
Posts: 1094
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm surprised there aren't more rentals on there.

Nissans are either short term rentals (enterprise, budget) or long term rentals (lease).

I don't think anyone actually buys one.


It is delusional to think that nobody has ever actually purchased a Nissan.

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#4615911 - 12/27/17 03:07 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: SeaJay]
michaelluscher Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 2420
Loc: Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted By: SeaJay
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm surprised there aren't more rentals on there.

Nissans are either short term rentals (enterprise, budget) or long term rentals (lease).

I don't think anyone actually buys one.


It is delusional to think that nobody has ever actually purchased a Nissan.


I bought a Nissan...

It's wearing a Mercury badge, but it's a Nissan
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#4615914 - 12/27/17 03:09 PM Re: Rental Fleet Queens - Nissan and Toyota [Re: kam327]
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Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 1810
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Consumer Reports have their place, but they approach vehicles from a very bland vanilla perspective. Some people find that fits well with their vehicle expectations. If you are into performance and not utility, their perspective might not fit with your expectations ... for example you may be willing to trade off some utility or longevity for fun to drive.

Car and Driver is almost the opposite ... they place a premium on performance, not so much on value, and will discount utility or longevity.

Road and Track is a mouthpiece for the OEMs. They take the press releases and industry contacts and make an article out of it.

You need to know the reviewer to get any value from the review. And you need to *honestly* know yourself and how you will use the vehicle. It doesn't pay to follow C&D if you don't drive near the limit, for example; you will just end up buying a car that has capabilities that you will never explore.

They may prefer the Mazda (for example) because it corners well and probably expect buyers to shod it with high wearing low mileage tires. Not everyone wants that, or needs it. Maybe a quiet, good mileage Honda fits you better, or maybe you want the "GM of Japan" boring and reliable Toyota. Or whatever; know thyself and read between the lines.

Same criteria exists for North American or European brands. I do find Edmonds to give a nice, comprehensive review with middle-ground criteria, not leaning one way or the other. For some people that's better than Consumer Reports (for example).
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