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#4615596 - 12/27/17 10:12 AM Medicare Tax not raised since 1986....
ZZman Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
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Loc: Michigan
Did you know that the tax for Medicare has not been raised since 1986? Obviously this is a problem when the baby boomers have been retiring in huge numbers and people live longer and have more expensive medical procedures and medicines.
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#4615621 - 12/27/17 10:35 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
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Tax for Medicare? Please explain.
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#4615624 - 12/27/17 10:37 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: Eddie]
ZZman Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
Tax for Medicare? Please explain.


2.9% of income is subject to MC tax to pay for program.


Edited by ZZman (12/27/17 10:39 AM)
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#4615629 - 12/27/17 10:43 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
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Loc: Houston, Texas
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.
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#4615654 - 12/27/17 11:07 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: motor_oil_madman]
RamFan Offline


Registered: 05/09/10
Posts: 1973
Loc: Illinois, U.S.A
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.


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Edited by RamFan (12/27/17 11:07 AM)
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#4615659 - 12/27/17 11:10 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
Yah-Tah-Hey Offline


Registered: 05/26/14
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Loc: Columbus,Nebraska
It wouldn't take much of a FICA increase to secure SS for decades to come. I paid into FICA from my first paycheck to the last paycheck and now I enjoy the benefits.The system needs to be more closely monitored because it is being egregiously abused by medical providers billing Medicare for services not rendered. In my opinion, chiropractors are the worst of the bunch.

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#4615661 - 12/27/17 11:10 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Alfred_B Offline


Registered: 05/12/15
Posts: 1968
Loc: America
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.


Up to 110k of earnings. Higher earners don't pay this tax.

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#4615688 - 12/27/17 11:43 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
djb Offline


Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 725
Loc: Los Gatos CA
Basic question: if a tax is a percentage, why would you expect the rate to increase? The adjustment for inflation and wage inflation is already built in. The expectation should be that as things become more efficient, the rate should decrease rather than decrease.

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#4615693 - 12/27/17 11:48 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: Alfred_B]
czbrian Offline


Registered: 04/10/15
Posts: 154
Loc: Houston, TX
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.


Up to 110k of earnings. Higher earners don't pay this tax.


High earners do pay the tax... just on the first 110k of income. If you make 200k, 90k is not subject to the tax.

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#4615702 - 12/27/17 11:56 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
OTCW Offline


Registered: 05/07/17
Posts: 49
Loc: Tennessee
The rate hasn't changed, but the gross amount collected has gone way up since 1986. People make way more than they did then. 2.9% of what I make now is much more than 2.9% of what I made back in 1986.
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#4615704 - 12/27/17 11:57 AM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: djb]
Alfred_B Offline


Registered: 05/12/15
Posts: 1968
Loc: America
Originally Posted By: djb
Basic question: if a tax is a percentage, why would you expect the rate to increase? The adjustment for inflation and wage inflation is already built in. The expectation should be that as things become more efficient, the rate should decrease rather than decrease.



Real wages have been stagnant for a long time, i.e. wage increases are at inflation rate in the long run, while the medical expenditure increases have outpaced inflation as the pool of eligible persons increases, the comorbidities become complex and people with chronic illnesses have a prolonged life spans.

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#4615727 - 12/27/17 12:31 PM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: Alfred_B]
javacontour Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 10306
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Alfred_B
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.


Up to 110k of earnings. Higher earners don't pay this tax.



They don't pay the social security portion, but I don't think the Medicare portion phases out.
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#4615731 - 12/27/17 12:33 PM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: RamFan]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 4858
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
You realize that 15.3 percent of your salary pays for social security and Medicare? Yes your employer pays half of that but that's still more money they could be paying you.


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Yes sir. I wanted to squeeze that one in there. Lol
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#4615732 - 12/27/17 12:34 PM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
Posts: 4858
Loc: Houston, Texas
Also if you're self employed you get to pay the entire 15.3 percent
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#4615744 - 12/27/17 12:47 PM Re: Medicare Tax not raised since 1986.... [Re: ZZman]
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Posts: 967
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AARP works as a very effective lobby group. No politician wants war with these active, voting citizens.
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