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Tool comparison. Interesting. #4615332
12/27/17 05:02 AM
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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615340
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Looks like he bought some pretty decent stuff.

The fuses and wire looming are probably the exact same thing parts stores sell.

I have no experience with anything battery powered from there btw.


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615347
12/27/17 05:51 AM
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I only own the HF pick set from that video. First time seeing the Earthquake Cordless Ratchet, just reading the reviews now. Likely not enough use to justify purchase though, but cool to think about.

This thread should be popcorn worthy.

Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615353
12/27/17 06:17 AM
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The right tool for the job...

Nothing new here.

Professional mechanic needs to invest in quality tools. Shadetree mechanic, not so much.

If you have no problems buying stuff from China, HF is for you. If you do, you need to look elsewhere.

Pretty simple. Comes down to choice. Good to have choices. To each their own.

Last edited by GeorgeKaplan; 12/27/17 06:17 AM.
Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615374
12/27/17 07:28 AM
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As an aviation professional, Snap On is often the only tool that can do the job. The thin walled box wrenches and swivel sockets fit in tight locations properly and can handle the load. Good thing only a few sizes are needed. 1/4 through 3/8 inch are the common sizes that absolutely require Snap On tools. And the various Snap On screwdrivers are an absolute must.

For my home tool boxes, I have Craftsman wrenches, SK sockets and HF impact sockets and so on. They work just fine.


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: Cujet] #4615393
12/27/17 08:00 AM
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I got problems in the past seeking a thin walled spark plug socket outside pricey brands. Here we have Beta and Facom


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615398
12/27/17 08:10 AM
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Something else about hand tools is how they feel in the hand. There's ergonomics and there's fit and finish. Pro or shadetree, some appreciate a quality tool and some don't care.


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: Cujet] #4615431
12/27/17 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
As an aviation professional, Snap On is often the only tool that can do the job. The thin walled box wrenches and swivel sockets fit in tight locations properly and can handle the load. Good thing only a few sizes are needed. 1/4 through 3/8 inch are the common sizes that absolutely require Snap On tools. And the various Snap On screwdrivers are an absolute must.

For my home tool boxes, I have Craftsman wrenches, SK sockets and HF impact sockets and so on. They work just fine.


I have to disagree with the Snap-On love fest, sure they make some decent tools but Stahlwille, Hazet and a few others are just as good if not better in many cases and yes they make aviation tools, Stahlwille torque tools are world renowned and considered the gold standard.
PB Swiss make some of if not the best screwdrivers in the world and regarded by many in that industry to be superior.

Snap-On is common in the USA and available and yes they are quality tools but they are not by any stretch of the imagination the be all and end all as far as quality tools go.

https://www.airport-suppliers.com/iwas_s...h-technology-6/

https://www.stahlwilletools.com/

https://www.hazet.de/produktkatalog/index.php?cPath=2_2620


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615434
12/27/17 08:40 AM
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I used BY wrenches at a bike shop I worked at. Though they worked fine, they didn't feel good in the hand.

Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: dlundblad] #4615519
12/27/17 09:47 AM
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I wonder if he used the 20% off coupon on any of that stuff? I thinking he could have bought more stuff for $370.

In the video, he says everything is made in China. He didn't do his homework there are other items HF sells that are made in Taiwan.

I agree with the other members here. If you make your living as a mechanic, then you probably need something of higher quality. For my needs HF fits my budget.


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615595
12/27/17 11:12 AM
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Having used Snapon tools at work for years and years, I prettty much put together a 66 GTO for a friend that bought in a box and he had Harbor freight tools you can really tell the difference. My dad bought me a set of Craftsman tools for my birthday in 1968 [I was 15 years old] and the Snapon still feel better. Would I buy Snap on tool for home use? Probably not.


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615710
12/27/17 01:08 PM
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I've broken enough Snap-On to know they have their limits. When the local distributor says not to give him more than one broken tool a week, I know they are bust his side to keep costs down ...

I have some HF tools, Proto, SK Wayne, Williams, Craftsman and Un-Break-O. And the Un-Break-O are still unbroken after decades of work smile

Tractors can get parts stuck so tight that a torch won't move them. Mud and dirt just do a number ...


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: Cujet] #4615720
12/27/17 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
As an aviation professional, Snap On is often the only tool that can do the job. The thin walled box wrenches and swivel sockets fit in tight locations properly and can handle the load. Good thing only a few sizes are needed. 1/4 through 3/8 inch are the common sizes that absolutely require Snap On tools. And the various Snap On screwdrivers are an absolute must.

For my home tool boxes, I have Craftsman wrenches, SK sockets and HF impact sockets and so on. They work just fine.

As an aviation professional, my box is stacked deep with Proto, Wera, Wiha, Klein, and Knipex. My ratchets are Gearwrench. 120 tooth and and I haven't busted 'em yet.

I am a firm believer that Snap-On doesn't make the best of anything. But if you want all your tools to match...


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Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: OneEyeJack] #4615737
12/27/17 01:39 PM
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A long, long time ago I worked at a British car dealership and learned a trick to getting the flywheel off Jag XK engines. The bolts are 3/4" and an impact socket won't fit because of a shoulder on the flywheel itself and they are always tough to get undone. So you go to Sears and by a 1/2" drive 3/4" chrome standard socket. You use an impact wrench and after 2 or 3 flywheels it cracks because no standard socket is up to that kind of abuse. Take it back to Sears for a new one. Always keep 2 or 3 in your toolbox and you're always ready to go. Sad to see Craftsman tools today that don't match the quality of days gone by because other brands would just blow up when you first hit the trigger.

Re: Tool comparison. Interesting. [Re: Trav] #4615781
12/27/17 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Cujet
As an aviation professional, Snap On is often the only tool that can do the job. The thin walled box wrenches and swivel sockets fit in tight locations properly and can handle the load. Good thing only a few sizes are needed. 1/4 through 3/8 inch are the common sizes that absolutely require Snap On tools. And the various Snap On screwdrivers are an absolute must.

For my home tool boxes, I have Craftsman wrenches, SK sockets and HF impact sockets and so on. They work just fine.


I have to disagree with the Snap-On love fest, sure they make some decent tools but Stahlwille, Hazet and a few others are just as good if not better in many cases and yes they make aviation tools, Stahlwille torque tools are world renowned and considered the gold standard.
PB Swiss make some of if not the best screwdrivers in the world and regarded by many in that industry to be superior.

Snap-On is common in the USA and available and yes they are quality tools but they are not by any stretch of the imagination the be all and end all as far as quality tools go.

https://www.airport-suppliers.com/iwas_s...h-technology-6/

https://www.stahlwilletools.com/

https://www.hazet.de/produktkatalog/index.php?cPath=2_2620


What's common though is that they're all first world made tools, not dumped Chinese junk that cost taxpayers their jobs in exchange for a minimum wage retail bozo... and people complaining about paying unemployment tax...

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