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What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? #4615052
12/26/17 08:10 PM
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MichaelRS Offline OP
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And by that I mean, what is it that last or is not replaced to make a car qualify for the title of lasting X number of hundreds of thousands of miles?

Or maybe another way to ask it is, what needs to be replaced or worked on for the car to qualify for NOT haveing lasted X number of hundreds of thousands of miles.


2002 Toyota Sienna
178k As of May 2017
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615064
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???


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 84k Mobil 1 AFE 0w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615067
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Engine or transmission rebuild/replacement is what I would consider.


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Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615068
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Live south of rust belt is the most important. Most engines will go 200k with decent maint. To get the transmission to 200k you have to start with a decent transmission and then maintain it with synthetic ATF.


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2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
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Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615071
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check my sig, Im am the original owner. all syn fluids and reg maintenance. No tranny , motor or clutch work


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Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615072
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Originally Posted By: MichaelRS
And by that I mean, what is it that last or is not replaced to make a car qualify for the title of lasting X number of hundreds of thousands of miles?

Or maybe another way to ask it is, what needs to be replaced or worked on for the car to qualify for NOT haveing lasted X number of hundreds of thousands of miles.


Years ago, if it was the same VIN tag it qualified, even if you swapped the engine 20 times.

Now, i would say original engine (untouched) for sure to be considered.


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Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615079
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I would say any engine work would disqualify it,because the engine is the heart of the vehicle.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615089
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Not everyone read the full question.

I'm in agreement with first Nissan.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615095
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If your engine and transmissions have been rebuilt or replaced, it doesn't qualify.


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2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4615105
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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
If your engine and transmissions have been rebuilt or replaced, it doesn't qualify.


For sure that would cost way more than a new car!


2004 Corolla 124705
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615107
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To say it without qualification? Original, undisturbed long block in a body/chassis that, for the most part, has only had usual wear components replaced. Ball joints, shocks, tie rod ends, etc. Most auto transmissions will require repair in that time frame.

But don't get me started on why on earth people seem to think "actual miles" or "original miles" on a <20 year old car with a 6-digit odometer means anything.


I like Chevy and Valvoline.

'13 Cruze, 1.4T, 113K
'85 GMC C3500, 454, 130K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 169K
'67 Suburban, 350, 331K
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615125
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Like many things, it's not exactly well defined. I'd say the head(s) would have to stay on, original bearings in the bottom end, and trans not opened up for anything other than a clutch on a manual transmission car. 200k with that, and I think it was a decent run.

But it gets dicey going from there. Original ball joints? tie rod ends? We tend to think of struts and shocks as being wear items, but are the springs wear items? or are they items which it doesn't matter either way, too easy & cheap to replace to care?

I think it's more admirable when the owner bothers to go to crazy miles. 3 full rebuilds and 700k would be more impressive to me than a 200k vehicle. I mean, that's commitment, regardless of how much wrenching it took!


2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 163k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 187k, his
Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615144
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Whatever the odometer says.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615152
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It's simple. As the owner of a 1984 Civic wagon with 440K+ miles, it takes only a few things to get over 250K miles.

Reliable vehicle
Good weather, parking inside is a bonus
Conservative driving style
Routine maintenance
Some basic knowledge about vehicles
A good mechanic for things you don't do
....you add the next one

Re: What constitutes a car lasting 200 or 300k miles? [Re: MichaelRS] #4615171
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I would say original untouched drive train. But, likewise, u respect an owner that rebuilds and pushes a vehicle to the high upper limits, 500k+


1991 Chevrolet K1500 (4.3, 4x4, 86k miles)

2016 Dodge Grand Caravan
(3.6 V6) 46500 miles
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