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Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) #4614653
12/26/17 01:13 PM
12/26/17 01:13 PM
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TmanP Offline OP
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So, after our first cold night of the year, I went out and started the van (2010 Sienna with 150k). It wasn't too cold, 0 degrees, (low of -8). (We usually see temps of -15 at least a few times a winter, and often -20.)
It is pretty hard starting in the cold-once, at -15 or so, it took five attempts of cranking and following the procedures in the manual.
She is rather cold-blooded, the radio does this when it's below 20 or so, and the engine doesn't sound great when cold (on any oil, this is M1 5w30).
For various reasons, we are on our third radio in the van. They've all been cold-blooded. Sometimes it freezes completely!
The odometer is kinda funny too!

Not asking for help, just thought it was kinda funny!



2012 Toyota Camry 2.5 30,000 mi
2015 Chevy Silverado LT Z71 5.3 V8 30,000 mi
2010 Toyota Sienna 3.5 V6 150,000 mi
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614662
12/26/17 01:22 PM
12/26/17 01:22 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Chris142 Offline
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That stupid chime is the first thing I get rid of when I get a new(er) car. I can't stand them. If my door is open I can figure that out on my own.


02 Wrangler durablend 10w40
87 F250 traveler 15w40
04 Tahoe super-s 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614664
12/26/17 01:24 PM
12/26/17 01:24 PM
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Colorado Springs
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How old are the spark plugs??? Another thing: Toyota's IAC valves are notorious for deposit issues as they gain mileage; this occurs because one of the crankcase breather hoses connects right to the IAC valve and the valve gets gummed up with oily carboned varnish stuff - hence it sticks a little when cold until the cylinder gets moving freely. My Corolla was having rough cold starts a year ago and I resorted to taking the valve off and cleaning it; made a world of difference. An easier way is like this: (video is a Camry but the Valves are identical)



Just some food for thought. cool

Last edited by Drew99GT; 12/26/17 01:25 PM.
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614677
12/26/17 01:35 PM
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dishdude Online content
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It started right up. LCD displays are slow to respond at zero degrees. Put a Casio wristwatch in the freezer and see what happens!


2018 Challenger SRT
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: Chris142] #4614694
12/26/17 01:53 PM
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How do you get rid of the chime? My car (2006 Torrent) chimes all the time now when door is open, even with the key out of the ignition.

Last edited by uplandr; 12/26/17 01:55 PM.
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614723
12/26/17 02:36 PM
12/26/17 02:36 PM
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Toronto, Canada
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Sounds pretty normal to me. What you describe, I have experienced with every vehicle I owned. Brand new vehicles are a little less noisy when started cold at these types of temperatures, but they all get noisy eventually. Pretty much every aspect of the car will work and feel different when it's this cold out. Suspension will be stiffer and may creek a little, tires go out of round, tranny will shift differently, and in manual cars, the clutch will be very heavy and sometimes slow to return. All normal stuff.


2015 Dodge Grand Caravan-27k miles.
2006 Mazda 3-163k miles
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614725
12/26/17 02:37 PM
12/26/17 02:37 PM
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Lima, Ohio, USA
earlyre Offline
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I didn't see anything terribly unusual for a 0F start... shrug


Mine:
09 Mercury Sable : 6qts AutoQuest(Meijer/Warren) 0w20, WIX 51516
Mine to Maintain:
03 Pontiac Vibe : 4.5qts VWB 5w30,WIX 51394
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614737
12/26/17 02:47 PM
12/26/17 02:47 PM
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TX, USA
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Unfortunately, the battery is getting weaker when the temp is colder.

Have you load test the battery at that cold temp to see where they are in terms of amperage?

What oil viscosity did you put in there?

Last edited by JMJNet; 12/26/17 02:51 PM.

  • 2017 Toyota Sienna
  • 1995 GMC Suburban 6.5L Turbo Diesel


Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: JMJNet] #4614754
12/26/17 03:09 PM
12/26/17 03:09 PM
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New York City
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Originally Posted By: JMJNet
Unfortunately, the battery is getting weaker when the temp is colder.

Have you load test the battery at that cold temp to see where they are in terms of amperage?

What oil viscosity did you put in there?


OP stated he has M1 5W-30 in there.

Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4614792
12/26/17 03:57 PM
12/26/17 03:57 PM
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The Midwest
skyactiv Offline
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I've noticed the radio in most cars will sound like poo if the car has been sitting out when it's below 0.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: Drew99GT] #4614795
12/26/17 04:00 PM
12/26/17 04:00 PM
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Iowa
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Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
How old are the spark plugs??? Another thing: Toyota's IAC valves are notorious for deposit issues as they gain mileage; this occurs because one of the crankcase breather hoses connects right to the IAC valve and the valve gets gummed up with oily carboned varnish stuff - hence it sticks a little when cold until the cylinder gets moving freely. My Corolla was having rough cold starts a year ago and I resorted to taking the valve off and cleaning it; made a world of difference. An easier way is like this: (video is a Camry but the Valves are identical)



Just some food for thought. cool


I have a 2009 sienna.
Don't believe there is an iac valve on these.


2011 Equinox, 2.4l
2009 Sienna, 3.5l
Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: Drew99GT] #4614817
12/26/17 04:29 PM
12/26/17 04:29 PM
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OH
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OH
Marked for future reference.

Re: Sienna doesn't like the cold! (cold start) [Re: TmanP] #4615494
12/27/17 09:32 AM
12/27/17 09:32 AM
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Slick17601 Offline
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Seems perfectly normal to me, it started right up.

Last edited by Slick17601; 12/27/17 09:32 AM.

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