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#4614364 - 12/26/17 06:13 AM Best product to help cold weather starts
Tlhfirelion Offline


Registered: 10/03/12
Posts: 157
Loc: Missouri, USA
Would I be best served getting an engine oil heater or a battery warmer? I don't have a garage and my 2001 Toyota Sequoia kinda struggles a little to start when it gets near zero. Battery is only a few years old and it was tested and is fine. It offers plenty of CCA and CA. I just wonder if anything can make the start a little easier on those zero degree mornings. Once started it warms up surprisingly fast. Thanks!

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#4614367 - 12/26/17 06:21 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NY
Given the choice of one or the other. I'd go with the oil pan heater.
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#4614373 - 12/26/17 06:34 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
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I would say both are overkill on the few zero days you might have. A good Syn 0w or 5w oil would allow it to start easily.
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#4614389 - 12/26/17 06:58 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
Astro14 Offline


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Synthetic oil and a brand new battery.

Its not that cold there.

If you lived where Garak lives, I would say block heater...

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#4614399 - 12/26/17 07:12 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
Finz Offline


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Id go battery warmer.

Just a matter of time before battery starts to struggle, then it becomes a fairly big deal vs waiting a couple minutes for car to warm up a bit.

I remember back in the day my dad used to place a small lantern under the car and we had an electric/heated dip stick. I wonder if a drop light placed near/directed at the oil pan would have any impact? Sure would be a lot cheaper

For that matter, drop lite aimed at battery with a blanket or something over partially-opened hood
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#4614401 - 12/26/17 07:14 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: ZZman]
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Registered: 01/03/09
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
I would say both are overkill on the few zero days you might have. A good Syn 0w or 5w oil would allow it to start easily.


+1. I live in Illinois and 0-20 helps my engines to spin over very well in the coldest temps we see here. -10F.


Edited by tig1 (12/26/17 07:15 AM)
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#4614412 - 12/26/17 07:35 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Finz]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
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Originally Posted By: Finz
Id go battery warmer.

Just a matter of time before battery starts to struggle, then it becomes a fairly big deal vs waiting a couple minutes for car to warm up a bit.

I remember back in the day my dad used to place a small lantern under the car and we had an electric/heated dip stick. I wonder if a drop light placed near/directed at the oil pan would have any impact? Sure would be a lot cheaper

For that matter, drop lite aimed at battery with a blanket or something over partially-opened hood


Why the "partially-opened hood?"

With a combustion-based heater I can see it would reduce explosion risk and vent condensation, but with an electric source (I assume a "drop light" is like an inspection lamp) you're just losing heat.

I have a wee drink warming hot plate I might use if I had electricity, but I don't, so I don't. Doesn't really get cold here anyway.

I do sometimes use butane into the air cleaner, instead of using choke, which seems to be broken anyway. I'd guess a FI car is going to ignore that and over fuel anyway, but with a carb it avoids fuel wash down.

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#4614437 - 12/26/17 08:16 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
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Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 4220
Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
I would check your battery cables (and the starter cables) and make sure the connections are all clean and tight. Clean them with a wire brush so they are nice and shiny.

What oil are you running?
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#4614444 - 12/26/17 08:32 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
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Don't rule out internally corroded battery cables, either.
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#4614449 - 12/26/17 08:39 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
Synthetic oil will make a difference. If you already have synthetic oil then try the oil pan heater. Best is a engine block heater.
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#4614458 - 12/26/17 08:47 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
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a well tuned motor...

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#4614470 - 12/26/17 08:57 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
FermeLaPorte Offline


Registered: 07/25/17
Posts: 472
Loc: Texas (south)
Get a new battery and put some.Mobil 1. It's always been the best for cold weather.

Check your spark plugs.
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#4614481 - 12/26/17 09:13 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
NYEngineer Offline


Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 1572
Loc: NY, NY
Yep. Good battery, good quality cables and synthetic oil. I don't worry about my Suburban starting at zero degrees.

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#4614505 - 12/26/17 09:41 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
BrianF Offline


Registered: 02/25/15
Posts: 551
Loc: Sask, Canada
plug in if the temp gets insane. That's all I use and I live where Garak lives... well more north. I make sure the battery works, if it can hold a good charge it wont freeze... too bad.

The ambient was around the -30C the other morning. Plugged the Cummins in for 3 hours and it fired right up. Which is surprising since it runs PetroCan 10w30 semisynthetic, not Amsoil 0w40 PAO based ultra priced oil changed at 3000 miles with a bypass filter.....

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#4614507 - 12/26/17 09:43 AM Re: Best product to help cold weather starts [Re: Tlhfirelion]
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Loc: US-WA
Not tha t my oil needs help, but the 1+ qart of fuel in there helps thing along nicely.
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