Recent Topics
Any synthetic oil rebates currently or soon?
by 07Piloteer
06/20/18 01:32 PM
2018 Hyundai elantra motor oil
by kapama
06/20/18 01:00 PM
SN Plus on shelves
by 03s
06/20/18 12:23 PM
Group 90 Battery - 45 vs 60aH rating
by The Critic
06/20/18 12:19 PM
Tire on Church 15 Passenger Van
by Gebo
06/20/18 11:58 AM
Battery Disconnect Switch?
by Pike51
06/20/18 11:35 AM
03 Maxima Cam sensor questions
by LeakySeals
06/20/18 11:09 AM
Wood Fairing?? Yes, and it's beautiful!
by webfors
06/20/18 11:08 AM
2006 Prius
by Kira
06/20/18 11:06 AM
Amsoil XL 5w30, 10K OCI, 2006 Expeditition
by meborder
06/20/18 10:18 AM
Mouse Visiting Car
by Ifixyawata
06/20/18 10:07 AM
Hit a shopping cart at 30mph
by LeakySeals
06/20/18 10:00 AM
Let's Talk Bed Pillows
by LoneRanger
06/20/18 09:21 AM
Changed Speedo Gear on 700r4 Tailshaft
by Pike51
06/20/18 09:20 AM
Which do you prefer: ZL-1 Camaro or GS Corvette ?
by Mr Nice
06/20/18 08:41 AM
CVT Discussion
by Sierra048
06/20/18 08:28 AM
Can't get Unifi AP V2 to work on TDS...
by WhizkidTN
06/20/18 07:34 AM
Need mini grease gun
by Duffyjr
06/20/18 07:02 AM
Mazda 6 O2 sensor - CA emission
by Chester11
06/20/18 06:57 AM
Brake Bleeder
by supton
06/20/18 06:56 AM
Newest Members
Theraven, battleman13, Shassis, Santo, aligoodn
65276 Registered Users
Who's Online
97 registered (bdcardinal, BAJA_05, AZjeff, 07Piloteer, 03s, 69Torino, 12 invisible), 1596 Guests and 36 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65276 Members
67 Forums
285653 Topics
4767168 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#4613417 - 12/24/17 09:06 PM No more steel canister filters huh?
jimmyjack Offline


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 15
Loc: washington
Is it on the newer Toyotas or is all the auto world going to just pleated refill cartridges? Its a little more of a PIA to do but its ok with me. I can see whats in the pleats and what was in my oil. Kinda messy too. Ive been changing my own oil for over 40 years up until just a few years ago when I had free OC for our new car. Just wondering if everybody is doing this now.

Top
#4613421 - 12/24/17 09:15 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41775
Loc: New Jersey
Now? This is old school tech. My early 1980s Mercedes cars use this and it's the best design ever - fully accessible from the top with just 13mm wrenches. Why other manufacturers have to invert them and require giant funky sockets is beyond me.

I much prefer a cartridge filter topside and vertical. Totally clean, easy to look at the media, etc.

Top
#4613427 - 12/24/17 09:24 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
chrly919 Offline


Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 71
Loc: Tennessee
My old Porsche 356's and my Porsche 912 both has a steel filter canister with a lid. It had a Fram sticker on
it. I've seen older cars, American and foreign with same set up. No mess. You just pull the element out and wipe the leftover in the canister out with a paper towel. Drop in need element and tighten lid. We just bought a 2014 Grand Cherokee with the V6 and it has a cartridge filter on top of the engine. I haven't had the privilege of that mess yet, but the OC will probably be some time in the spring.


Edited by chrly919 (12/24/17 09:28 PM)
Edit Reason: Add content
_________________________
99 Honda CRV AWD 250k
PHM 5w30 Purolator PureOne
14 Jeep G Cherokee Limited
93 Corvette coupe M1 5w30
01 Corvette coupe M1 5w30

Top
#4613437 - 12/24/17 09:31 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
rooflessVW Online   content


Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 4041
Loc: North Carolina
The BMW "big six" had a cartridge filter with Purolator cast right into the housing. That was the 70's.

How are you changing your oil that it is any messier than dealing with a canister? Those are the messy ones unless you're lucky enough to have one pointed straight up and down.
_________________________
"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."

Top
#4613452 - 12/24/17 09:47 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
jimmyjack Offline


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 15
Loc: washington
well i did have a pickup that was up and down.I mean instead if just wiping the sealing surface clean and screwing the new on now you have clean out the old oil, and use a o ring etc. Not much more just a few extra steps that you never did with steel cans. Its all easy to an old wretch like me. Got more time than money. That's always been the truth in my life. LOL
_________________________
2017 Toyota Highlander XLE

Top
#4613455 - 12/24/17 09:52 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
KD0AXS Offline


Registered: 11/13/12
Posts: 2441
Loc: Nowthen, MN
I don't have any experience with Toyota cartridges, but on our Jeep the cartridge is right on top of the engine. Super easy access and no mess. Easiest oil change I've ever done.

Top
#4613462 - 12/24/17 10:06 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: KD0AXS]
MCompact Offline


Registered: 07/21/02
Posts: 4112
Loc: KY
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
I don't have any experience with Toyota cartridges, but on our Jeep the cartridge is right on top of the engine. Super easy access and no mess. Easiest oil change I've ever done.


Our BMWs are the same- ridiculously easy to replace.
_________________________
Mine:
2014 M235i
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2016 i3 REX
2009 Cooper Clubman

Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...

Top
#4613465 - 12/24/17 10:08 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
oilmutt Offline


Registered: 12/16/11
Posts: 429
Loc: Connecticut 06033
I have a 2016 Toyota Camry and the cartridge is a pain in the a-- to removed.It is located on the bottom of the engine a requires the replacement of two o-rings and a special wrench,very messy,note to Toyota -move cartridge to top of engine !
_________________________
'05 Chevy Malibu 6cyl,119k, Syn. Oil (owned)
'16 Toyota Camry,4cyl 25k Syn oil (leased)
'92 Ford Tempo ,4cly 26k Conv oil (managed)

Top
#4613468 - 12/24/17 10:12 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5117
Loc: Florida
I personally prefer the canister style. Less waste of resources... even though a good chunk probably gets recycled.
_________________________
2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart.

Top
#4613483 - 12/24/17 11:12 PM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
Danno Online   content


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 1989
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
IIRC, the 2018 Camry has the "old school" steel canister filter.
_________________________
2016 Sorento SX V6 AWD
2015 KIA RIO SX
2010 Mazda 3 2.0L
2009 Venza V6 AWD
2013 Sonata 2.4L RIP in write-off crash

Top
#4613525 - 12/25/17 01:14 AM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1981
Loc: US-WA
I have no problem with the cartridge filter on my IS, yes it leaks out a bit, but not all over the engine like the Jeep. Right at the bottom near the drain plug, so I just slide the pan a few inches.
The RX is a dream, mounted upward, with a drain plug in it. As far as seals and oiling them, I just leave the mess to lubricate, and I just leave seal a few times over, never leaks, OCD is overrated.
I like to see what's inside before I this my filter in, not after.
_________________________
95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30,XG8
07 IS250 97K FB ?w??,FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40,XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 18K 76 20w50,1515
14 RX450h 30k PP 0w20,NAPAG

Top
#4613531 - 12/25/17 01:54 AM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: Danno]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 1120
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
Originally Posted By: Danno
IIRC, the 2018 Camry has the "old school" steel canister filter.
Cartridges are "old school." Spin-ons have only been around since about the late 1950s. Earlier vehicles had cartridge filters (if any), including our '52 Ferguson tractor, '54 Chevy, and '68 IH tractor. Those filters were much larger and much easier to access than the recent Toyota cartridges.
_________________________
2011 Toyota Prius now at 88K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K

Top
#4613575 - 12/25/17 04:59 AM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6148
Loc: Waco, TX
Spin-on or cartridges I care not.

Access - I do care about.

Remember the GM cars in the late 80's with the oil filter inside the oil pan?!?!?
_________________________
"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."

Top
#4613585 - 12/25/17 05:28 AM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: jimmyjack]
Chris142 Online   content


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16817
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Gm used the cartridge filter till 68. Then went back to them


Edited by Chris142 (12/25/17 05:35 AM)
_________________________
02 Wrangler durablend 10w40
87 F250 traveler 15w40
04 Tahoe super-s 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40

Top
#4613612 - 12/25/17 06:12 AM Re: No more steel canister filters huh? [Re: JHZR2]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6366
Loc: Texas
Yeah even the Pentastar is a treat upfront and center
Now if they could put a tiny actuator on a Fumoto valve ?

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >