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New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? #4613403
12/24/17 09:53 PM
12/24/17 09:53 PM
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washington
jimmyjack Offline OP
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I know some of you like to get the factory fill out soon after break in. Is that mandatory with the new cars now or is it OK to wait until 1st recommended service at 10,000 mi? I think not myself! I want to change it now with 2500 mi not at 10,000. Any thought's. Thanks

Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613411
12/24/17 09:58 PM
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10k is a lot but I'd try to get to 5k. There's extra good-stuff in the assembly lube that makes it into the first batch of oil.

Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613413
12/24/17 10:01 PM
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It's not mandatory and you won't get a definitive answer. I personally like to change the first fill at then end of the break-in period. Usually around 1000mi.

If you want to, go for it. If you want to wait that's fine too.


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613416
12/24/17 10:06 PM
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I also like about 1/2 the normal recommended first oil change as recommended by your car manufacture. My vehicle said the normal oil change interval is 7,500 so my first change was ~ 3,500 and the second ar 7,500 and so one. The old method from the 50s & 60s was to change at 500 or 1K but, modern engines with full flow oil filters don't need that. You're probably just find with the 10K change but, I still like the early 3-5,000 first dump because I do it myself. Ed


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Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613418
12/24/17 10:13 PM
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washington
jimmyjack Offline OP
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Thanks fellas. I'm gonna change it tomorrow. Anybody know what Toyota uses for their fact oil. I gonna use M1 OW-20 in our new 17 Highlander. Been using that for some time now in our Avalon. Merry Christmas to all.


2017 Toyota Highlander XLE
Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613425
12/24/17 10:21 PM
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I changed the factory oil on my 14 Mustang GT at 4,600 miles and one year.

Wayne


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Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: eljefino] #4613445
12/24/17 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
There's extra good-stuff in the assembly lube that makes it into the first batch of oil.


I wonder....

UOA's of japanese cars "factory fill" has often turned up extra moly,

But domestic (USA/Canada/Mexico .. LOL!) don't get anything but bulk oil.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613446
12/24/17 10:39 PM
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A search will reveal dozens of these threads, maybe hundreds. I am in the change it out early camp. 1000 miles is a good number.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613454
12/24/17 10:50 PM
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Let’s look at it this way: engine #1). All oil changes performed right along OLM recommendations from new.
engine#2). Break in oil changed at 1500 miles, then 5000 miles, then along OLM recommendation from there on.

Now both engines are at 200k miles. Did the 2 early oil changes make any difference?

Not starting a sandstorm, but nowadays I wonder if we gain anything from those early oil changes. Personally I change oil in the 5-6k range and that includes the first oil change. So what do y’all think, does it really make any difference?


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Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: double vanos] #4613456
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Originally Posted By: double vanos
Let’s look at it this way: engine #1). All oil changes performed right along OLM recommendations from new.
engine#2). Break in oil changed at 1500 miles, then 5000 miles, then along OLM recommendation from there on.

Now both engines are at 200k miles. Did the 2 early oil changes make any difference?

Not starting a sandstorm, but nowadays I wonder if we gain anything from those early oil changes. Personally I change oil in the 5-6k range and that includes the first oil change. So what do y’all think, does it really make any difference?





Maybe, maybe not. Mainly it’s up to the individual and his or her piece of mind. I learned it from my dad and it went on from there.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4613474
12/24/17 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
It's not mandatory and you won't get a definitive answer. I personally like to change the first fill at then end of the break-in period. Usually around 1000mi.


This.


I like Chevy and Valvoline.

'13 Cruze, 1.4T, 113K
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Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613517
12/25/17 02:01 AM
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At least go 5k, dumping the ff any sooner is a waste.


2018 Challenger SRT
Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: dishdude] #4613520
12/25/17 02:09 AM
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I always dump early, between 500-750 miles cheers

Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613523
12/25/17 02:11 AM
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Do what you feel is best. Changed factory fill on my Elantra after 2k. The 2017 RX350 will go a year. It will still be under 5k.


Truth alone triumphs, not untruth.

2017 Elantra SE
Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack] #4613556
12/25/17 04:57 AM
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when I first got my titan, dealer told me first 3 month, I think I put like 1000 miles on it. after that they told me come every 5k.


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