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#4613403 - 12/24/17 08:53 PM New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill?
jimmyjack Offline


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 15
Loc: washington
I know some of you like to get the factory fill out soon after break in. Is that mandatory with the new cars now or is it OK to wait until 1st recommended service at 10,000 mi? I think not myself! I want to change it now with 2500 mi not at 10,000. Any thought's. Thanks

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#4613411 - 12/24/17 08:58 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32629
Loc: ME
10k is a lot but I'd try to get to 5k. There's extra good-stuff in the assembly lube that makes it into the first batch of oil.

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#4613413 - 12/24/17 09:01 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
SilverFusion2010 Offline


Registered: 06/29/11
Posts: 1654
Loc: Crawfordville FL
It's not mandatory and you won't get a definitive answer. I personally like to change the first fill at then end of the break-in period. Usually around 1000mi.

If you want to, go for it. If you want to wait that's fine too.
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#4613416 - 12/24/17 09:06 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
Eddie Offline


Registered: 12/07/03
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Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
I also like about 1/2 the normal recommended first oil change as recommended by your car manufacture. My vehicle said the normal oil change interval is 7,500 so my first change was ~ 3,500 and the second ar 7,500 and so one. The old method from the 50s & 60s was to change at 500 or 1K but, modern engines with full flow oil filters don't need that. You're probably just find with the 10K change but, I still like the early 3-5,000 first dump because I do it myself. Ed
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#4613418 - 12/24/17 09:13 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
jimmyjack Offline


Registered: 10/04/12
Posts: 15
Loc: washington
Thanks fellas. I'm gonna change it tomorrow. Anybody know what Toyota uses for their fact oil. I gonna use M1 OW-20 in our new 17 Highlander. Been using that for some time now in our Avalon. Merry Christmas to all.
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#4613425 - 12/24/17 09:21 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
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I changed the factory oil on my 14 Mustang GT at 4,600 miles and one year.

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#4613445 - 12/24/17 09:37 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: eljefino]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: eljefino
There's extra good-stuff in the assembly lube that makes it into the first batch of oil.


I wonder....

UOA's of japanese cars "factory fill" has often turned up extra moly,

But domestic (USA/Canada/Mexico .. LOL!) don't get anything but bulk oil.
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#4613446 - 12/24/17 09:39 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4213
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
A search will reveal dozens of these threads, maybe hundreds. I am in the change it out early camp. 1000 miles is a good number.
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#4613454 - 12/24/17 09:50 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
double vanos Offline


Registered: 08/05/04
Posts: 1884
Loc: 5600 feet elevation, Arizona
Let’s look at it this way: engine #1). All oil changes performed right along OLM recommendations from new.
engine#2). Break in oil changed at 1500 miles, then 5000 miles, then along OLM recommendation from there on.

Now both engines are at 200k miles. Did the 2 early oil changes make any difference?

Not starting a sandstorm, but nowadays I wonder if we gain anything from those early oil changes. Personally I change oil in the 5-6k range and that includes the first oil change. So what do y’all think, does it really make any difference?
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#4613456 - 12/24/17 09:54 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: double vanos]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4213
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
Originally Posted By: double vanos
Let’s look at it this way: engine #1). All oil changes performed right along OLM recommendations from new.
engine#2). Break in oil changed at 1500 miles, then 5000 miles, then along OLM recommendation from there on.

Now both engines are at 200k miles. Did the 2 early oil changes make any difference?

Not starting a sandstorm, but nowadays I wonder if we gain anything from those early oil changes. Personally I change oil in the 5-6k range and that includes the first oil change. So what do y’all think, does it really make any difference?





Maybe, maybe not. Mainly it’s up to the individual and his or her piece of mind. I learned it from my dad and it went on from there.
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#4613474 - 12/24/17 10:18 PM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: SilverFusion2010]
Alex_V Offline


Registered: 04/10/16
Posts: 1155
Loc: Campbellsville, KY
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
It's not mandatory and you won't get a definitive answer. I personally like to change the first fill at then end of the break-in period. Usually around 1000mi.


This.
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#4613517 - 12/25/17 01:01 AM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
dishdude Offline


Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 8727
Loc: Phoenix
At least go 5k, dumping the ff any sooner is a waste.
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#4613520 - 12/25/17 01:09 AM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: dishdude]
Malo83 Offline


Registered: 08/08/08
Posts: 1999
Loc: Cali
I always dump early, between 500-750 miles cheers

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#4613523 - 12/25/17 01:11 AM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
MONKEYMAN Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 2218
Loc: St. Louis
Do what you feel is best. Changed factory fill on my Elantra after 2k. The 2017 RX350 will go a year. It will still be under 5k.
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#4613556 - 12/25/17 03:57 AM Re: New car 1st OC. when to change factory fill? [Re: jimmyjack]
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Loc: vicksburg ms
when I first got my titan, dealer told me first 3 month, I think I put like 1000 miles on it. after that they told me come every 5k.
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