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Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more #4612132
12/23/17 12:23 PM
12/23/17 12:23 PM
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Massachusetts
deven Offline OP
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Synthetic oil in your vehicle?

Simple article but hits many points discussed ad nauseum here on BITOG.


Proud user of ROYAL PURPLE products!

2016 Acura RLX Sports Hybrid(Royal Purple HPS 5w30 + M1-110 oil filter)

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. IT'S ONLY OIL
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612144
12/23/17 12:34 PM
12/23/17 12:34 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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Comment section is PRICELESS!


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: Rolla07] #4612163
12/23/17 12:58 PM
12/23/17 12:58 PM
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Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Comment section is PRICELESS!


Depends on perspective... misinformation like that is actually slightly distressing.

It's one of the reasons I refuse to hang out with "Car guys" anymore.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612171
12/23/17 01:08 PM
12/23/17 01:08 PM
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Upstate NY
Donald Offline
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Both Subarus require synthetic oil. Decision made.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612193
12/23/17 01:30 PM
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Soviet State of Washington
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Not sure how old this article is but the bottle pictures are way outdated


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: Donald] #4612215
12/23/17 02:04 PM
12/23/17 02:04 PM
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Maricopa, AZ
dave1251 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Both Subarus require synthetic oil. Decision made.


No they do not. From Subaru's owners manual "You should use synthetic engine oil that
meets the same requirements given for
conventional engine oil. When using
synthetic oil, you must use oil of the same
classification, viscosity and grade shown
in this Owner’s Manual. Refer to “Engine
oil” F12-4. Also, you must follow the oil
and filter changing intervals shown in the
Warranty and Maintenance booklet.".
No where does it state requirement.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: dave1251] #4612232
12/23/17 02:27 PM
12/23/17 02:27 PM
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Toronto, Canada
Tech819 Offline
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Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: Donald
Both Subarus require synthetic oil. Decision made.


No they do not. From Subaru's owners manual "You should use synthetic engine oil that
meets the same requirements given for
conventional engine oil. When using
synthetic oil, you must use oil of the same
classification, viscosity and grade shown
in this Owner’s Manual. Refer to “Engine
oil” F12-4. Also, you must follow the oil
and filter changing intervals shown in the
Warranty and Maintenance booklet.".
No where does it state requirement.



My Maintenance book says Required

Last edited by Tech819; 12/23/17 02:29 PM.

2017 Impreza Sport Hatch M1 0w20 OEM filter
2003 Corolla Magnatec 5w30 OEM Filter
2013 Jetta 2.5 Castrol 0w40 OEM filter
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: Tech819] #4612240
12/23/17 02:34 PM
12/23/17 02:34 PM
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Maricopa, AZ
dave1251 Offline
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Maricopa, AZ
Originally Posted By: Tech819
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: Donald
Both Subarus require synthetic oil. Decision made.


No they do not. From Subaru's owners manual "You should use synthetic engine oil that
meets the same requirements given for
conventional engine oil. When using
synthetic oil, you must use oil of the same
classification, viscosity and grade shown
in this Owner’s Manual. Refer to “Engine
oil” F12-4. Also, you must follow the oil
and filter changing intervals shown in the
Warranty and Maintenance booklet.".
No where does it state requirement.



My Maintenance book says Required


You must have issue's because your owner's manual states the same as my previous post. Because it was provided by Subaru.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: dave1251] #4612445
12/23/17 07:42 PM
12/23/17 07:42 PM
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Canada
Lolvoguy Offline
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Canada
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: Tech819
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: Donald
Both Subarus require synthetic oil. Decision made.


No they do not. From Subaru's owners manual "You should use synthetic engine oil that
meets the same requirements given for
conventional engine oil. When using
synthetic oil, you must use oil of the same
classification, viscosity and grade shown
in this Owner’s Manual. Refer to “Engine
oil” F12-4. Also, you must follow the oil
and filter changing intervals shown in the
Warranty and Maintenance booklet.".
No where does it state requirement.



My Maintenance book says Required


You must have issue's because your owner's manual states the same as my previous post. Because it was provided by Subaru.


LOL


06 Lexus IS350- Wife
88 BMW 325is- Mistress
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612449
12/23/17 07:46 PM
12/23/17 07:46 PM
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Taiwan
Ducked Offline
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Taiwan
Originally Posted By: deven
Synthetic oil in your vehicle?

Simple article but hits many points discussed ad nauseum here on BITOG.


Then why would I want to nauseate myself further?

Anyway, they lost me at "BETTER FUEL ECONOMY FROM SYNETHETIC OIL?" If they can't spell it......

Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: dave1251] #4612509
12/23/17 09:14 PM
12/23/17 09:14 PM
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OH
fdcg27 Offline
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OH
You're wrong 2X.
Newer Subaru OMs state that synthetic oil is required as is the case with our '17.
You must be relying upon an older OM, like that for our '09.


17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 92K PP 5W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: fdcg27] #4612536
12/23/17 09:50 PM
12/23/17 09:50 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
You're wrong 2X.
Newer Subaru OMs state that synthetic oil is required as is the case with our '17.
You must be relying upon an older OM, like that for our '09.

Required for optimum performance, not for warranty. You can use conventional.



1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612549
12/23/17 10:13 PM
12/23/17 10:13 PM
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Colorado, USA
Bonz Offline
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How can that Subaru speak be interpreted as “required” with no other option? Come on people, read the words using common sense.

Last edited by Bonz; 12/23/17 10:14 PM.
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: fdcg27] #4612550
12/23/17 10:17 PM
12/23/17 10:17 PM
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Toronto, Canada
Tech819 Offline
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Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
You're wrong 2X.
Newer Subaru OMs state that synthetic oil is required as is the case with our '17.
You must be relying upon an older OM, like that for our '09.



This is correct All 2017 Subaru Require synthetic

If you would like I can take picture of it and post it. It says in the maintenance booklet that all 2017 models require Synthetic oil.




Last edited by Tech819; 12/23/17 10:20 PM.

2017 Impreza Sport Hatch M1 0w20 OEM filter
2003 Corolla Magnatec 5w30 OEM Filter
2013 Jetta 2.5 Castrol 0w40 OEM filter
Re: Synthetic oil in your vehicle and more [Re: deven] #4612559
12/23/17 10:42 PM
12/23/17 10:42 PM
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MA USA
andrewp1998 Offline
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MA USA
How many honest mechanics recommend syn oil? Many that I know of.


2001 Honda civic HX vtecE- 5 spd,232k+
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