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Do we trust Purolator again now? #4611747
12/23/17 12:40 AM
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cheesepuffs Offline OP
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Hey guys, long time no see. I haven't been on here in quite a long time, but last time I was here was when the Puro tearing fiasco was in full effect. Are they better now, or do they still have the same issue? I thought of this recently when I noticed their snazzy new packaging on the shelf. cool


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611751
12/23/17 12:44 AM
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Wix or Fram Ultra. Appears the Puro media is still too brittle.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611752
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I trust the remaining PSL24651 oil filters in my stash enough to run them.

I trust the 3 PureOne blue oiled media air filters in my stash enough to run them.

I trust the one Purolator Classic air filter in my stash enough to run.

I have several Mopar MO-899 oil filters in my stash I trust to run.

Beyond that, I do not trust Purolator oil filters. The new Purolator One air filters look OK to me.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611755
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The only ones to consider running would be the Purolator Boss filters. These seem to be using a similar construction has BMW oil filters with their supportive mesh they are utilizing. One problem the Boss filters have seen is the ADBV with cuts in them. Not what one should see from a premium level filter. Though there haven't been any established problems from this issue. The other two lower tier filters from Purolator are still having tearing issues. The Boss filters are 99% @ 40 microns I believe. Not the most efficient by comparison to others available on the market. So only the Purolator Boss filters are decent enough to run except for the ADBV cuts on some sizes of filters.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611765
12/23/17 01:24 AM
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How 'bout their cartridges? I ran a "Classic" L16311 about 9000 miles, nearly all in warm weather. Despite my doubts, it apparently did OK. It was 2012 vintage, constructed more like the current Pure 1 version than today's "Classic" L16311 (which is the end-capless type, like Toyota, Denso, and K&N).


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: CR94] #4611767
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Originally Posted By: CR94
How 'bout their cartridges? I ran a "Classic" L16311 about 9000 miles, nearly all in warm weather. Despite my doubts, it apparently did OK. It was 2012 vintage, constructed more like the current Pure 1 version than today's "Classic" L16311 (which is the end-capless type, like Toyota, Denso, and K&N).


I doubt they make their carts or that they have the same media as the cans.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611774
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Last I looked, we're still consistently seeing shallow jagged metal cuts into ADBVs on Purolator-made filters. Even on the Bosch ones which have media that hasn't been reported to be tearing.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611778
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I would rather have coal in my stocking! smile


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611779
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i have a few white cans left in my stash and couple of reds that i picked up super cheap on clearance. i also have some bosch filters that i got on clearance


I will run what i have left in my stash but cut them open when i'm done with them to see how they do.

but as they are no longer at my local walmart and they cost too much at advance i'm probably done with them unless they become readily available again and there quality bounces back.

until then I'll still run some motorcrafts, and i've been trying the Fram TG's but the price jump might back me off of those.

so I'll be running probably Supertechs as well as other wix branded filters.

I've been thinking about ordering them in masterpacks online


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611795
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Regardless of Purolators media issues, their base plates typically have nasty burrs which tear the ADBV. Dull tooling, no deburring op, no qc inspection op, employee/ company does not care, workers too cheap to purchase prescription safety glasses? What is the cause?

If I had a car that took a branded Purolator that's a rebadged German Mann, I'd use that too. I use M+H German stuff all the time. The best of the best.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: Nyogtha] #4611797
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Originally Posted By: Nyogtha
I trust the remaining PSL24651 oil filters in my stash enough to run them.

I trust the 3 PureOne blue oiled media air filters in my stash enough to run them.

I trust the one Purolator Classic air filter in my stash enough to run.

I have several Mopar MO-899 oil filters in my stash I trust to run.

Beyond that, I do not trust Purolator oil filters. The new Purolator One air filters look OK to me.


I have a ~3 year old P1 in my Jeep. They are (were?) awesome filters! Great fitment and oiled media.

But I don't think I trust the company as a whole now..

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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611801
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Not me. I don't trust the brand anymore.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611815
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I would absolutely buy their air filters. For the oil filters, the Classic and the Boss would be the only ones I would consider running. From all of my research, the Purolator One has a fairly restrictive flow across the media. I wonder if the tearing issue has been fixed? I wonder if priming the filter would reduce the tearing?


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: cheesepuffs] #4611828
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Nope, risk vs. reward is not worth it for me. Maybe in a few years, after countless numbers of stellar performance reports here, maybe.


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Re: Do we trust Purolator again now? [Re: Lubener] #4611880
12/23/17 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lubener
Not me. I don't trust the brand anymore.


Amen!

Wix mid-tier (current design) and either the Fram EGs or TGs. I find the Ultras as built-too-restrictive, on my older model GMs.


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