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FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. #4609865
12/21/17 07:13 AM
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Following the coattails of a previous thread in this subsection...


http://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-may-simply-kill-fusion/

"Our first hint came last week when Ford confirmed it plans to stop building the Fusion in its Hermosillo, Mexico, factory. Our first thought was that Ford would import the Fusion from China, but that was quickly shut down. “We have no plans to export the next-generation Fusion/Mondeo from China to North America and Europe,” a representative told us in an email. As Automotive News points out, assuming Ford isn’t lying, that means it would have to find a factory in a different country to produce the North American Fusion or stop selling it here.

But when Automotive News asked Jim Hackett, Ford’s new CEO, if he thought the Fusion had a future in the U.S., Hackett responded by saying, “I’m giving you a hint.” Considering that he’d just been talking about no longer producing the Fusion in North America and not importing it from China, it sure sounds like Hackett was saying-without-actually-saying he doesn’t expect to sell the next Fusion in the ‘States."

IMO, the Fusion is one of the better midsized offerings. It has the most engine choices and there is something to fit every taste. It's also a very handsome vehicle. I hope this news isn't set in stone.

Last edited by wemay; 12/21/17 07:26 AM.

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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609875
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Crazy if they do because the Fusion/MKZ is probably Ford's best car.


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609876
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The new mid size car market has a lot of choices and is very competitive. This china thing is a trick to see how customers will respond to it on the web and will play a role in Ford's dicsision making process. Buick is making an SUV in China which is sold here in the U.S..


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609877
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BTW, Ford, I will not buy a Fusion made in China.


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609883
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Of course it would be too much to ask to just build it here.


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609885
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Well. They have the Taurus..

Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: wemay] #4609890
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Who cares? Buy a Camry if you want an American car.

Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: khittner] #4609899
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Originally Posted By: khittner
Who cares? Buy a Camry if you want an American car.


Companies and federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies might care. Fusion is quite popular as a fleet car for companies, and as a detective car for pd's due to it's low cost, efficiency, low maintenance, and ruggedness. Cheap solid cars that sip fuel (from a fleet perspective) with American branding that government entities need to show in purchasing (even if not built here still wears badging of domestic manufacturer). And before the "Camry/Accord/<insert model here> has more actual USA parts content and's made here!!..." argument is proffered, for government entities that answer to the taxpayer it's still important to them to show they've spent tax dollars on an American branded product.



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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: MuzzleFlash40] #4609905
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Originally Posted By: MuzzleFlash40
Of course it would be too much to ask to just build it here.

Get rid of the unions and they'll be able to afford to build it here.

Originally Posted By: khittner
Who cares? Buy a Camry if you want an American car.

I find it ironic how American brands are mostly building outside of the U.S. and "imports" are now mostly built in the U.S. crackmeup


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: LoneRanger] #4609915
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Companies and federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies might care. Fusion is quite popular as a fleet car for companies, and as a detective car for pd's due to it's low cost, efficiency, low maintenance, and ruggedness. Cheap solid cars that sip fuel (from a fleet perspective) with American branding that government entities need to show in purchasing (even if not built here still wears badging of domestic manufacturer).

They'll just buy some Malibus instead.


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: skyactiv] #4609922
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Buick is making an SUV in China which is sold here in the U.S..


And every one I've rented is sub standard.

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
BTW, Ford, I will not buy a Fusion made in China.


I certainly won't be purchasing any Chinese built vehicles any time soon. The Chinese offerings are, at this point, less than ideal. Furthermore, the consistently sneaky way the Chinese substitute sub standard metals and processes in their products remains a problem. It will take some time before they can be trusted. It's that simple.

Last edited by Cujet; 12/21/17 09:01 AM.

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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: Cujet] #4609930
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Buick is making an SUV in China which is sold here in the U.S..


And every one I've rented is sub standard.

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
BTW, Ford, I will not buy a Fusion made in China.


I certainly won't be purchasing any Chinese built vehicles any time soon. The Chinese offerings are, at this point, less than ideal. Furthermore, the consistently sneaky way the Chinese substitute sub standard metals and processes in their products remains a problem. It will take some time before they can be trusted. It's that simple.


Unfortunately, not a problem specific to China...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-japan-kobe-steel-metal-scandal-20171010-story.html


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: Quattro Pete] #4609932
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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: aquariuscsm] #4609933
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Crazy if they do because the Fusion/MKZ is probably Ford's best car.


for those of you who know the fusion well, which trim/engine/year would be best as a cpo replacement for my passat s (i like s for simple base models, without alot of frills)? thanks.


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Re: FORD MAY SIMPLY KILL THE FUSION IN THE U.S. [Re: jstert] #4609943
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Originally Posted By: jstert
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Crazy if they do because the Fusion/MKZ is probably Ford's best car.


for those of you who know the fusion well, which trim/engine/year would be best as a cpo replacement for my passat s (i like s for simple base models, without alot of frills)? thanks.


I have been driving for 55 years and my 2007 Fusion 2.3 is the most reliable, rattle free, well handling car I have ever owned. So far, my 2017 Fusion SE with the 2.5 NA engine is performing as well as the 2007.


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