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.357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo #4608665
12/19/17 08:30 PM
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I have the S&W FS M&P .40 1.0 & 2.0. I just recently bought a factory S&W .357 SIG barrel from EBAY to install in my M&P's. Let me tell you something, that .357 SIG is one bad round! I'm shooting SPEER TMJ 125gr. ammo for paper hole punching. For self defense, Federal LE 125 gr HST and Winchester PDX1 JHP 125gr.
I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of ANY of this ammo!
Does anyone else here like the .357 SIG round?
thumbsup USA

Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608668
12/19/17 08:35 PM
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It's a good round and I think the federal air marshals still use it for it's flat shooting characteristics.

I really like the recoil impulse.

My only gripe is that rounds named after companies tend to have really weak market support and distribution (45 GAP anyone?)

Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: Reddy45] #4608686
12/19/17 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
My only gripe is that rounds named after companies tend to have really weak market support and distribution (45 GAP anyone?)


45ACP is pretty popular.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: Reddy45] #4608693
12/19/17 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
It's a good round and I think the federal air marshals still use it for it's flat shooting characteristics.

I really like the recoil impulse.

My only gripe is that rounds named after companies tend to have really weak market support and distribution (45 GAP anyone?)


Aren't all semi-auto pistol rounds named after a company that created the spec?


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608703
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It is mine also. I have 4 Glock G4 pistols chambered in .357 SIG. I hand load all my target ammunition making it very cheap to shoot. I find it is the best of both worlds--the power of a .40S&W and the price of a 9MM to reload. 125gr Federal HST gets the nod for EDC ammunition. I also have some 147gr HST demilled bullets that I want to work a load up and shoot when time allows.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608729
12/19/17 09:21 PM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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9mm on steroid


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608730
12/19/17 09:22 PM
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Almost every case I can find where a person is shot with a .357Sig hollowpoint center mass, is a one and done ordeal. Great round.

Its the ideal round for a highway patrol officer.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: Leo99] #4608760
12/19/17 09:37 PM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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Not all. Some FBI guy created the 50 AE for Magnum Research/Desert Eagle.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: bubbatime] #4608763
12/19/17 09:38 PM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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44Mag/454 Casuall are rocket rounds too. Bears up north beware.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608798
12/19/17 10:06 PM
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Iíve been carrying it for years. I tested all the major calibers and settled on it. I reload my own, so it costs me the same as 9mm for practice rounds. The Highway Patrol carries it here. One of them was at my range once, and gave me his spent brass. grin

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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: Reddy45] #4608810
12/19/17 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
It's a good round and I think the federal air marshals still use it for it's flat shooting characteristics.

I really like the recoil impulse.

My only gripe is that rounds named after companies tend to have really weak market support and distribution (45 GAP anyone?)


And USSS



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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608814
12/19/17 10:16 PM
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
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.357 SIG is an amazing round.

I carry the Underwood loading of the Gold Dot 125gr. in my G32. It's an honest 1500 FPS out of the 4" G32 barrel, as verified by ballistics testing by tnoutdoors9 YouTube channel - 600+ lbs. of muzzle energy out of a compact handgun with 23-round capacity (with the Glock extended 22-rounder; flush-fit mags hold 13).

I believe that matches the performance of a 4" .357 MAG revolver with 125g ammo. With much less recoil.

And, there's the thing about the bottleneck ammunition being pretty much impervious to feeding jams due to the shape.

And it's just fun to shoot with the blast. You really know you're shooting a powerful handgun.


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608826
12/19/17 10:29 PM
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And check out this Underwood loading of the Lehigh Defense solid copper fluted nose round, the Xtreme Defender. 65 grains, 2100 FPS (not sure what length barrel they tested it out of). 636 lbs. of muzzle energy.

https://underwoodammo.com/product/handgun-ammo/357-sig-65-grain-xtreme-defender/

That's pretty amazing!


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Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608853
12/19/17 11:18 PM
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Looks like it is a great round. There are two problems, though. I don't know where its availability is going for the future, and a limited selection of pistols chambered for it.

Re: .357 SIG.....My New Favorite Round/Ammo [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4608862
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I love how I can keep my .40S&W mags and swap barrels (G22 2nd gen, ex-leo)


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