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Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs #4608421
12/19/17 04:45 PM
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Duffyjr Offline OP
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I just started replacing some very old CFL's in my house with LED's and what a difference. So I want to keep gong but want some info from any of you that have used LED's in recessed fixtures.

I have a couple enclosed fixtures in my kitchen, one mounted to the wall and one recessed in the ceiling, do I need special LED's for these?

Was planing on using the Great Value 60w equivalent.


Last edited by Duffyjr; 12/19/17 04:51 PM.

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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608433
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Read the bulb's package. It will tell you if it is OK to use in an enclosure.

I have had good luck with using Walmart's Great Value brand 60W and 100W LED bulbs in indoor and outdoor enclosures.


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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608442
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I've looked into this a little back when the original Cree LED bulbs shows up at Home Depot, the ones with the big heatsinks and coated class bulb. They specifically said that they were ok to use in an enclosed fixtures. I have a few of those in an enclosed ceiling fixture that have been running for several years now.

I haven't looked recently, but almost all the bulbs I've seen say that they're not for use in an enclosed fixture.

Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608445
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I have yet to find leds that donít hum or buzz in open fixtures. Sorry for getting off topic. My can lights are sealed leds. Going strong for three years.


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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: ARB1977] #4608469
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Originally Posted By: ARB1977
I have yet to find leds that donít hum or buzz in open fixtures.


I have some Great Value bulbs that are buzzing. Looks to be 1 out of 3.


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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608477
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Here's one that is suitable for enclosed fixtures:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electri...ED-10/206675105

I don't think they're dimmable, and only rated for 11,000 hours (compared to others of 25,000+ hours).

In almost all cases, if it doesn't specifically say "Suitable for Enclosed Fixtures", assume they are not. And that doesn't mean they won't work, they'll probably just die earlier.

Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608639
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The sunbeams I got at dollar tree are okay with it.

They are likely rebranded every six months though, like many generic things.

I did lose a couple original crees from 4 or 5 years back, the ones with the rubbery coating and heat sinks. They weren't enclosed, either-- go figure!

Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608658
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I use the Dollar tree Sunbeams everywhere. They are rated for enclosed fixtures. Only a buck buy 1 and see if you like it.
https://www.dollartree.com/Sunbeam-Warm-White-9-Watt-Medium-Base-LED-Light-Bulbs/p410343/index.pro


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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608676
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What many are doing is to install LED conversion.

It's got a new cover with LEDs along with an adapter that screws into the light socket.

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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: Duffyjr] #4608698
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Use the can retrofit kits for the ceiling cans... Work good, designed for the application, not too expensive. I

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Halo-5-in-an...0WH-R/203310667


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Re: Enclosed fixtures/LED Bulbs [Re: knerml] #4609036
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Duffyjr Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: knerml
Read the bulb's package. It will tell you if it is OK to use in an enclosure.

I have had good luck with using Walmart's Great Value brand 60W and 100W LED bulbs in indoor and outdoor enclosures.


Boy do I feel stupid, they say right on the box "rated for indoor/outdoor enclosed light fixtures". I feel even worse looking at the CFL's I pulled out, it says right on the bulb "not for use in totally enclosed recessed fixtures". Thing is they been in there for at least five years. I changed them back when the whole incandescent thing came out since one of these lights gets left on all evening in the winter and sometimes all night.

I also went around and listened to all four of the LED's and I can't hear any buzzing but did notice a couple of the old CFL's did, just not bad enough I ever noticed it.

Thanks all for your replies and suggestions.


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