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Cleaning oil #4608415
12/19/17 03:38 PM
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Good evening folks. So, before I c&p another filter I thought Iíd ask this question. In your experiences what oil is a good cleaning oil? I think M1 0w40 is judging from what I saw from OVERKILLís Expedition. What say the Bitog faithful?

Thank you


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608437
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Originally Posted By: car51
Good evening folks. So, before I c&p another filter I thought Iíd ask this question. In your experiences what oil is a good cleaning oil? I think M1 0w40 is judging from what I saw from OVERKILLís Expedition. What say the Bitog faithful?

Thank you


Can you link what you saw? OVerkil?

Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608444
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OVERKILL could; I canít


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608452
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Donít they all clean?


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: PimTac] #4608458
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Donít they all clean?


Dunno, from years of reading on here the stories I get are Castrol doesnít clean, and only expensive synthetics clean.

So, you tell me


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608461
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They all clean pretty well.

I think the diesel formulated oils like Delvac have a bit more detergents and dispersants in them.

UD


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608463
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Pennzoil and Rotella synthetics are supposed to be a top pick for cleaning. I think regardless of brand, regular oil changes are what keep the engine clean.


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM TG-3600 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30 Napa Gold 1515 filter
1997 Ford F-250 HD 7.3 Powerstroke V8: T6 5W-40 FRAM PH-3786 filter
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: jongies3] #4608470
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Originally Posted By: jongies3
Pennzoil and Rotella synthetics are supposed to be a top pick for cleaning. I think regardless of brand, regular oil changes are what keep the engine clean.


Good point. I bet even todayís Conventional s are good at cleaning smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608471
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Donít they all clean?


Dunno, from years of reading on here the stories I get are Castrol doesnít clean, and only expensive synthetics clean.

So, you tell me



You have just over 9000 posts and have been here a few years. I would think you knew already? But, Iíll throw out a bone.


The Mobil 1 fans say that M1 cleans better than any oil.
The Valvoline faithful say that Valvoline leaves the engineís insides spotless.
The Shell fan club will tell you that their oil made from natural gas leaves pistons xx% cleaner.
The Amsoil fanatics will proclaim that nothing beats Amsoil for cleaning.
The Castrol buddies will say that Edge is the cleanest oil to date.
The Chevron folks will say all of the above , but not too often.


Those are most of the players. Iím sure we will hear from the other brands as well.


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: PimTac] #4608490
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Donít they all clean?


Dunno, from years of reading on here the stories I get are Castrol doesnít clean, and only expensive synthetics clean.

So, you tell me



You have just over 9000 posts and have been here a few years. I would think you knew already? But, Iíll throw out a bone.


The Mobil 1 fans say that M1 cleans better than any oil.
The Valvoline faithful say that Valvoline leaves the engineís insides spotless.
The Shell fan club will tell you that their oil made from natural gas leaves pistons xx% cleaner.
The Amsoil fanatics will proclaim that nothing beats Amsoil for cleaning.
The Castrol buddies will say that Edge is the cleanest oil to date.
The Chevron folks will say all of the above , but not too often.


Those are most of the players. Iím sure we will hear from the other brands as well.



As stated, just asking for your experiences on what YOU think is a good cleaning oil.

Iím glad I donít have a oil stash; as I may just use ST or QSGB and follow DNewton3 advice smile

A wise co worker tells me all the time ďOil IS oil!Ē


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608491
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Cleaning oils are thin so that can wash away gunk from all the nooks and crannies inside the engine...so use anything in xW20 or even xW30 range...plus some cleaning aditive or shot of diesel.


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608500
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I've read great things about Mobil 0W40, Redline, RLI Bio Syn oil as cleaners. I believe it's the bio esters in the oil. Not sure about esters in Mobil, but def in the latter two. Again, Mobil is much cheaper at Helmart. Perhaps running short oil change intervals using high quality synthetics will mitigate your concern.

However; Valvoline manufactures an oil "Blue Restore 15W40" with solvents) for Cummins (Soot issues). Part #4337621, $63.41 a gallon. Here is a discussion Cummins Valvoline Blue Restore 15W40 . Here is a PDF Valvoline Blue Restore

I purchased Mobil 0W40 with Kreen and using it in my engine for cleaning. A lot cheaper than the Cummins Valvoline.


Respectfully,

Pajero!


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608511
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From my experiences with helping friends, buying a beater etc. "good cleaning oils" take a very long time to clean. Using Mobil 1 0W40 and TDT 5W40 were included in my projects. Anytime I wanted something cleaned I wanted it cleaned within a few thousand miles, not tens of thousands of miles or a year or more, so I tweaked my oil accordingly. Flame suit on.


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Re: Cleaning oil [Re: 53' Stude] #4608516
12/19/17 05:21 PM
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I posted a pic of my 2007 Fusion's Cam area last year when I replaced the cam cover gasket, and the head was very clean with 200K on the engine. Would love to show it but Photo Bucket has it trapped.
Oil used: M1 0-20AFE at 10K OCI's. I thought you posted a few days ago that you have settled on some sort of Penz?

Last edited by tig1; 12/19/17 05:25 PM.

2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Cleaning oil [Re: PimTac] #4608529
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I do think that you are quite correct in your analysis here PimTac. Each label seemingly has a way of seeing things. Having said that, if I were to go back in time to clean out my old Ford Probe motor that I didn't take the best care of at all when I was in my late teens to early twenties... I'd be asking the same EXACT question as Car51 is here. I like people's observations and hearing what they have to say
Knowing full well that I will have to navigate the way through all of the differing allegiances. I still would like to hear what people have to say. Even if I did not take every single opinion or observation as total gospel.


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