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#4608298 - 12/19/17 01:31 PM Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils
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#4608300 - 12/19/17 01:32 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay]
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I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.
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#4608314 - 12/19/17 01:46 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: Ifixyawata]
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.


You laugh, but an increase of 0.3 miles per gallon on a fleet of big rigs means a lot more cubic dollars saved than 5 mpg increase on your Ford Focus.

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#4608317 - 12/19/17 01:48 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: 440Magnum]
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Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.


You laugh, but an increase of 0.3 miles per gallon on a fleet of big rigs means a lot more cubic dollars saved than 5 mpg increase on your Ford Focus.



I absolutely believe it with the amount of fuel that an entire fleet of trucks would go through in a year.
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#4608339 - 12/19/17 02:09 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Nice to have the pictures this time, too! It looks like cap colour differentiates FA-4.


Edited by Garak (12/19/17 02:10 PM)
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#4608498 - 12/19/17 04:57 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay]
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One thing I will say is that I really like Mobil's oil containers. They are resealable and can be reused to put oil in and take back to be recycled.
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#4608555 - 12/19/17 05:56 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay]
loneryder Offline


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How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

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#4608557 - 12/19/17 06:00 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: loneryder]
BobFout Offline


Registered: 03/23/09
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Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.


HDEO criteria vs. PCMO criteria. CJ-4 was the first ESP-type API HDEO.
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#4608694 - 12/19/17 07:51 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: loneryder]
m37charlie Offline


Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 1360
Loc: Alaska
Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

regeneration has NOTHING to do with ash in oil. It is soot that gets burned with regeneration.

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#4608916 - 12/20/17 01:08 AM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: BobFout]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
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Originally Posted By: BobFout
HDEO criteria vs. PCMO criteria. CJ-4 was the first ESP-type API HDEO.

Yes, my CJ-4 Delvac 1 is ESP, whereas the previous iteration was not.
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#4608944 - 12/20/17 04:34 AM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay]
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Registered: 11/08/17
Posts: 177
Loc: California
Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

https://www.mobil.com/Xomfl/Core/Handlers/PDFHandler.ashx?component=SDS&downloadUrl=http://www.epw2.exxonmobil.com/IntApps/PSIMS/Download.aspx?ID=969841&docFormat=RTF

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#4609121 - 12/20/17 08:46 AM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: CleverUserName]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

Why is it sad? What performance did the oil lose with the change?
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#4609205 - 12/20/17 10:28 AM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: m37charlie]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

regeneration has NOTHING to do with ash in oil. It is soot that gets burned with regeneration.

Charlie
It won't regenerate twice as much, BUT if you burn oil, it may CLOG the DPF faster, meaning shorter cleaning intervals.
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#4609348 - 12/20/17 01:40 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: kschachn]
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Registered: 11/08/17
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Loc: California
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

Why is it sad? What performance did the oil lose with the change?


The physical properties are different. It has the same shortcomings of all G III based oils. You donít have the same thermal properties, the old Delvac ESP had impressive pour and flash point values. It was class leading for an off the shelf HDEO.

The NOACK isnít published, but Iíd bet the old PAO base made it less volatile.

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#4609386 - 12/20/17 02:29 PM Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: CleverUserName]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
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Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
The physical properties are different. It has the same shortcomings of all G III based oils. You donít have the same thermal properties, the old Delvac ESP had impressive pour and flash point values. It was class leading for an off the shelf HDEO.

The NOACK isnít published, but Iíd bet the old PAO base made it less volatile.

What kind of thermal properties?

And what do pour point and flash point relate to exactly, in terms of an operating engine?
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