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Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils #4608298
12/19/17 02:31 PM
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Kendall, FL
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18 KIA Sportage 2.4 AWD
M1HM 10W30, OEM
ST SYN 5W30, ST9688 (next)

13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T
PPeL 5W30, OEM
M1HM 10W30, OEM (next)
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay] #4608300
12/19/17 02:32 PM
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I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.


2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: Ifixyawata] #4608314
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.


You laugh, but an increase of 0.3 miles per gallon on a fleet of big rigs means a lot more cubic dollars saved than 5 mpg increase on your Ford Focus.



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Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: 440Magnum] #4608317
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Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
I had a LOL right away when I saw "Advanced Fuel Economy" and a picture of a Big Rig on the right-most bottle.


You laugh, but an increase of 0.3 miles per gallon on a fleet of big rigs means a lot more cubic dollars saved than 5 mpg increase on your Ford Focus.



I absolutely believe it with the amount of fuel that an entire fleet of trucks would go through in a year.


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2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay] #4608339
12/19/17 03:09 PM
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Nice to have the pictures this time, too! It looks like cap colour differentiates FA-4.

Last edited by Garak; 12/19/17 03:10 PM.

Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, Wix 57356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay] #4608498
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One thing I will say is that I really like Mobil's oil containers. They are resealable and can be reused to put oil in and take back to be recycled.


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Mobil Super 5w30 Wix 57356
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Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay] #4608555
12/19/17 06:56 PM
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How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: loneryder] #4608557
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Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.


HDEO criteria vs. PCMO criteria. CJ-4 was the first ESP-type API HDEO.


2003 VW Jetta TDI (Sold) / 2015 VW GTI 2.0T
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: loneryder] #4608694
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Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

regeneration has NOTHING to do with ash in oil. It is soot that gets burned with regeneration.

Charlie


05 Unimog U500/Unicat camper/Delvac 1 SHC ACEA E4/E5
09 BMW X5 35d/Delvac1 LE 5W30
88 Toyota OJ50LV OM314 motor D1 SHC
52 Dodge M37/Hercules diesel

Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: BobFout] #4608916
12/20/17 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: BobFout
HDEO criteria vs. PCMO criteria. CJ-4 was the first ESP-type API HDEO.

Yes, my CJ-4 Delvac 1 is ESP, whereas the previous iteration was not.


Plain, simple Garak.

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1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: wemay] #4608944
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Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

https://www.mobil.com/Xomfl/Core/Handlers/PDFHandler.ashx?component=SDS&downloadUrl=http://www.epw2.exxonmobil.com/IntApps/PSIMS/Download.aspx?ID=969841&docFormat=RTF

Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: CleverUserName] #4609121
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

Why is it sad? What performance did the oil lose with the change?


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1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
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Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: m37charlie] #4609205
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Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Originally Posted By: loneryder
How can they label it "esp" when it has 1% sulfated ash and their Mobil 1 esp has .5%. Your dpf will regenerate twice as much.

regeneration has NOTHING to do with ash in oil. It is soot that gets burned with regeneration.

Charlie
It won't regenerate twice as much, BUT if you burn oil, it may CLOG the DPF faster, meaning shorter cleaning intervals.


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Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: kschachn] #4609348
12/20/17 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Here is the SDS for esp 5w30. Sadly, EOM eliminated PAO in this just like they did with ESP CK-4 5w40.

Why is it sad? What performance did the oil lose with the change?


The physical properties are different. It has the same shortcomings of all G III based oils. You donít have the same thermal properties, the old Delvac ESP had impressive pour and flash point values. It was class leading for an off the shelf HDEO.

The NOACK isnít published, but Iíd bet the old PAO base made it less volatile.

Re: Mobil Delvac 1 Launches New Synthetic Engine Oils [Re: CleverUserName] #4609386
12/20/17 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
The physical properties are different. It has the same shortcomings of all G III based oils. You donít have the same thermal properties, the old Delvac ESP had impressive pour and flash point values. It was class leading for an off the shelf HDEO.

The NOACK isnít published, but Iíd bet the old PAO base made it less volatile.

What kind of thermal properties?

And what do pour point and flash point relate to exactly, in terms of an operating engine?


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