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House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil #4607885
12/19/17 07:26 AM
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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4607896
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It would be no surprise if Joe has stock in some recycling company.


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: Trav] #4607903
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Well, were they not distillers at one time?

Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: Trav] #4607907
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During the young part of my life (mid '60's) the oil Sears sold was said to be recycled.

'Twas said certain nasties were driven from the oil during its first use and that cleansing and refreshment of additives was what you're buying anyway.

The age of the base oil wasn't an issue.

Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4607937
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I think it's irresponsible to say it takes 42 gallons of crude to make 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil. This suggests that the rest of the crude is wasted.

Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: Kestas] #4607962
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Originally Posted By: Kestas
I think it's irresponsible to say it takes 42 gallons of crude to make 2.5 quarts of lubricating oil. This suggests that the rest of the crude is wasted.
Clueless is more likely, somebody inserted that talking point in the speech for them, who needs research?


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4607967
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So does anyone here know how many gallons of crude it takes to make one gallon of dino oil?


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4607974
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Misinformation given the uninformed drones is how the politicians and the media operate.


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: sasilverbullet] #4607993
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Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
So does anyone here know how many gallons of crude it takes to make one gallon of dino oil?

It's typically about 1-2% base oil refined from a barrel of crude. So ~1.5% of 42 gallons makes about 2.5 quarts.

So that means it takes roughly 66.67 gallons of crude for each gallon of lube oil.

Last edited by MotoTribologist; 12/19/17 10:06 AM. Reason: Fixed math
Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4608018
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What will happen if so much used oil is rerefined that the used oil consuming industries have to switch to new oil ?


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4608044
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and re-refining drain oil is bad? Where is the down side? Can it be cracked to make other things?


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4608046
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If they re-refine old oil into reusable lubricating oil, does that free up production of crude to make more of something else?

Or is each barrel already worked to its most profitable, and they'd just end up stacking lubricating oil as a byproduct?


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: wemay] #4608077
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Isn't Valvoline Nextgen already that product?

Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: andyd] #4608078
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Originally Posted By: andyd
and re-refining drain oil is bad? Where is the down side? Can it be cracked to make other things?
I'm sure that the used oil in the tank at Autozone is much cleaner than the crude we get.


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Re: House ok's bill, re-refine more used motor oil [Re: Kestas] #4608079
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Good point Kestas.

People don't realize just HOW many things we use in our everyday lives that crude oil helps make even possible. It's truly quite remarkable if brought to light and thought about.


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