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Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service #4606881
12/18/17 04:49 AM
12/18/17 04:49 AM
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Oakville, Ontario
Patman Offline OP
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In another thread on here I mistakenly posted that I had about 100,000 km on the air filter in my Civic, but further investigation showed I actually had 61,000. Because I had already bought a new Fram air filter though, I decided to replace the one in the car. It was in there for 4 1/2 years and sees lots of road salt in the winter time so I really was surprised to see how clean it looked! Based on this, I feel like I can easily go 100,000 km between changes on this car under my driving conditions (and I probably won't even have the car that long) I did not knock any dirt out of this filter before taking this picture, this is exactly how it came out of the airbox:



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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4606947
12/18/17 07:10 AM
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Wow. Ya I am lucky to get 10k miles out of mine.


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4606950
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How does the other side look?


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4606991
12/18/17 08:21 AM
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Mileage has little to do with the condition of an air filter. It's all about operating conditions encountered.


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4607039
12/18/17 09:48 AM
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I wonder if the filter is catching the dirt or letting it go through into your oil pan? But I would expect Canadian air quality to be cleaner than mine. My air filters can barely go 15K where I live. Of course, that is based solely on my interpretation of what constitutes a dirty filter.

Just for fun, I'd try another brand to see how it did over the same mileage.


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4607071
12/18/17 10:18 AM
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Oakville is - in general - a pretty nice place with some uber expensive mansions along Lake Ontario, enjoys some of the richest demographics of all Ontario. They have better quality dirt, and less of it :o)

Smell that filter, might have that distinctive fragrance of Grey Poupon ?


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Finn] #4607086
12/18/17 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Finn
How does the other side look?


It looked brand new.

Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Gebo] #4607089
12/18/17 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gebo
I wonder if the filter is catching the dirt or letting it go through into your oil pan?


Airbox was clean and my silicon levels in my UOAs have also shown low numbers.

Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4607396
12/18/17 03:18 PM
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Less population to fill the locale air with debris. Could have tapped out excess and used again. Looks pretty clean to me.


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Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4608573
12/19/17 06:18 PM
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I know I could have reused it but since I already bought the new one and I hate opening the airbox too often, I put the new one in. I will probably never replace it again as I doubt I'll put another 100,000 km on this car.

Re: Fram air filter after 61,000 km in service [Re: Patman] #4610128
12/21/17 11:25 AM
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I have gone 150,000kms (~94,000mi) on a filter...and it looked just slightly more dirty than that each time. I would go longer but I was worried about the ability of the filter to seal and age of the media against the air elements being 4+ years old.

I am on my 3rd filter since car purchase in 2008....good clean Canadian air indeed.


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05 LeSabre 3.8L-210Kkms(134Kmi)-PP,Wix
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All with mpg > EPA

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