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Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown #4606412
12/17/17 04:21 PM
12/17/17 04:21 PM
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Posts: 21,249
ON, Canada eh?
StevieC Online content OP
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ON, Canada eh?


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606484
12/17/17 05:43 PM
12/17/17 05:43 PM
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Illinois
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Illinois
No surprise in the outcome. Thanks for the new YouTube channel to watch.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606488
12/17/17 05:46 PM
12/17/17 05:46 PM
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Cave City KY
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Cave City KY
I'm surprised the lucas didn't foam.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606530
12/17/17 06:33 PM
12/17/17 06:33 PM
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Upstate NY
Donald Online content
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Upstate NY
I avoid Lucas.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606541
12/17/17 06:44 PM
12/17/17 06:44 PM
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S California
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S California
Have you ever compared good old-fashioned caster bean oil to modern oil?

Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606581
12/17/17 07:15 PM
12/17/17 07:15 PM
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South Carolina
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This guy usually uses ancient beater lawnmower engines to do his tests, but I see he went out and bought two brand new engines. Cool. cool


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606590
12/17/17 07:21 PM
12/17/17 07:21 PM
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New York Queens
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Lucas is popular for a reason it seems too offer protection Zmax couldn't smile


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: eyeofthetiger] #4606612
12/17/17 07:40 PM
12/17/17 07:40 PM
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Holly Springs, NC USA
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Holly Springs, NC USA
Originally Posted By: eyeofthetiger
This guy usually uses ancient beater lawnmower engines to do his tests, but I see he went out and bought two brand new engines. Cool. cool


He has done this a few other times with new Harbor Freight engines, including one with Lucas against STP. This seems to be his new method of testing oil additives. I like this method since previous wear or damage won't influence the results.

He still uses old lawnmowers for testing fuel related things (such as a recent video on whether sugar in gasoline will damage an engine or trying to run an engine on something other than gasoline. Engine wear isn't as much of an issue with fuel tests, since durability isn't what is being tested.

This is a very interesting channel, and it is nice to see someone putting these things to the rest rather than just pushing a sponsored product.

Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606689
12/17/17 09:02 PM
12/17/17 09:02 PM
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PV Az
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Interesting use for HF engines.

Notice what looks like an arc between the case and ramp of the Lucas engine?


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4606752
12/17/17 10:09 PM
12/17/17 10:09 PM
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Idaho
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I guess the Lucas thickened the oil or made it clingy so more stuck to the parts.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: CT8] #4606848
12/18/17 12:27 AM
12/18/17 12:27 AM
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Hawaii, USA
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Hawaii, USA
Originally Posted By: CT8
I guess the Lucas thickened the oil or made it clingy so more stuck to the parts.


He ran the engines without oil, only the Lucas in one and Z-Max in the other.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: anndel] #4606857
12/18/17 01:35 AM
12/18/17 01:35 AM
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Huntington Beach, CA
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I believe he ran oil/additive mix for the same time then drained and ran them "dry" to see what if any residual coating was left/soaked in,clinging ..whatever term used. Another with only oil that was drained would have helped with a baseline?
Originally Posted By: anndel
Originally Posted By: CT8
I guess the Lucas thickened the oil or made it clingy so more stuck to the parts.


He ran the engines without oil, only the Lucas in one and Z-Max in the other.

Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: tenderloin] #4606905
12/18/17 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: tenderloin
Another with only oil that was drained would have helped with a baseline?


That.


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: StevieC] #4607145
12/18/17 11:28 AM
12/18/17 11:28 AM
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Iowegia - USA
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Poor little engines. cry


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Re: Lucas Synthetic / Z-Max Additive Showdown [Re: MolaKule] #4607199
12/18/17 12:14 PM
12/18/17 12:14 PM
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Posts: 4,253
The Garden State
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The Garden State
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Poor little engines. cry


I know, I do so much to keep my OPE running good, this hurts. But maybe he's "smart" and put used oil in the crank case and returned them to Harbor Freight as being "defective", he has 30 days to do it. Not that anyone would be so dishonest to do so LOL grin spank.

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