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Volumetric Efficiency #4606268
12/17/17 01:47 PM
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borgward Offline OP
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How do I determine the Volumetric Efficiency of stock 2013 Ford Fiesta 1.6L SE? Is it stated somewhere or do I need to calculate it?

Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: borgward] #4606456
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You can calculate it if you know the engine displacement and the WOT air flow rate at a known engine speed.

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Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: borgward] #4606562
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The maximum BMEP or max torque is the lowest GPHPH or max eficency. BMEP=BRAKE MEN EFFECT PRESSURE AND GPHPH GALLONS PER HORSE POWER PER HOUR. Ed


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Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: Eddie] #4606862
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Originally Posted By: Eddie
The maximum BMEP or max torque is the lowest GPHPH or max eficency. BMEP=BRAKE MEN EFFECT PRESSURE AND GPHPH GALLONS PER HORSE POWER PER HOUR. Ed
No, although maximum BMEP and minimum BSFC (max efficiency) sometimes come at about the same speed-load combination.

You meant Brake Mean Effective Pressure, and Gallons per Horsepower-Hour (= gallons per hour per horsepower).


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Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: borgward] #4606928
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I use an OBDII data reader and monitor Load. This is in effect the calculated VE the engine is seeing. Airflow X rpm. With a turbo or SC this value will rise well over 100%.


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Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: borgward] #4606933
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Yes CR94. Now at almost 80 year old, I forget some stuff. Sorry. Ed Hayes


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Re: Volumetric Efficiency [Re: CR94] #4606965
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Originally Posted By: CR94
You can calculate it if you know the engine displacement and the WOT air flow rate at a known engine speed.


This is the only reasonable answer I have seen. Don't be surprised if it exceeds 100% near the torque peak, even in a N/A engine.


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