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#4605894 - 12/16/17 11:10 PM 2 stroke with no power?
motor_oil_madman Offline


Registered: 11/29/09
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Loc: Houston, Texas
I was trying to get my old echo srm210 string trimmer running.This trimmer has two issues. One is it will run great for about 15 minutes, but once it gets good and warm it won't want to restart. The other is that it doesn't make any power. I bought a new trimmer and stopped using it. So far I've replaced the carburetor and fuel lines/fuel filter and cleaned the clogged spark arrestor clean. If I remember right, I couldn't get the muffler off to check the exhaust port on the engine block. That was a while back. I want to say the no restart when hot started after it sat unused for about 2 years.
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#4605897 - 12/16/17 11:17 PM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Do compression test?
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#4605899 - 12/16/17 11:19 PM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Check for spark when its hot. If no spark ignition module/coil unit.

Double check the part number below.

https://www.amazon.com/SHINDAIWA-GENUINE...ords=A411000140
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#4605944 - 12/17/17 02:59 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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+1 for coil test when warm...

For "no power" issue check exaust port...if piston has scratches than carburetor was set too lean in the past...
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#4605945 - 12/17/17 03:00 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
Langanobob Offline


Registered: 04/24/09
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When having problems the first step with a two stroke or any small engine is a new NGK spark plug and fresh fuel mix.

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#4605990 - 12/17/17 07:16 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: Kamele0N]
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Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
For "no power" issue check exaust port...if piston has scratches than carburetor was set too lean in the past...

+2
Either a carboned-up exhaust port or low compression will cause your problems. If the exhaust port is open and you see scratches on the side of the piston, you found your problem.

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#4606059 - 12/17/17 09:02 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: wag123]
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My husqvarna did the same thing to me this past summer.. wouldnt restart after getting warmed up. I ended up dumping the fuel and mixing 32:1 Echo Blend and a few capfuls of stabil marine and run it like i borrowed it.. Japanese Tuneup lol.. Never did it again after that. Mine is 10 years old and has a ton of hours on it i feared i was going to have to buy a new one but that worked for me.

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#4606164 - 12/17/17 11:36 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: krismoriah72]
wag123 Offline


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Originally Posted By: krismoriah72
My husqvarna did the same thing to me this past summer.. wouldnt restart after getting warmed up. I ended up dumping the fuel and mixing 32:1 Echo Blend and a few capfuls of stabil marine and run it like i borrowed it.. Japanese Tuneup lol.. Never did it again after that. Mine is 10 years old and has a ton of hours on it i feared i was going to have to buy a new one but that worked for me.

Since he replaced the carb and other parts, I assumed he was using a FRESH fuel mix (not just fresh from the gas can, fresh from the gas station).

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#4606574 - 12/17/17 07:10 PM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Registered: 04/11/16
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Loc: West Central , FL
did it run fine before you quit using it ?
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#4607002 - 12/18/17 08:40 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Yeah it didn't have the hot start problem before.
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#4607134 - 12/18/17 11:18 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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Registered: 04/11/16
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Probably not a spark issue then , but I would put a new NGK in it anyways , they are about $3 at a local shop.
On those older echos , there is a gasket between the carb and the jug , I'd check that to make sure it's not restricting.
Make sure your lines did not get crossed , when you installed the new carb.
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#4608621 - 12/19/17 06:55 PM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
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I'm surprised there is no mention of Sea Foam in this thread? I hate to sound like a nut job talking about this all the time, but the stuff does wonders keeping things clean and enhancing the fuels.
With today's fuels, imo, getting worse due to Ethanol, I find it even more important to use all the time.
https://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/
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#4609053 - 12/20/17 07:30 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: irv]
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Registered: 04/19/09
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: irv
I'm surprised there is no mention of Sea Foam in this thread? I hate to sound like a nut job talking about this all the time, but the stuff does wonders keeping things clean and enhancing the fuels.
With today's fuels, imo, getting worse due to Ethanol, I find it even more important to use all the time.
https://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/


Keep telling yourself that. One day it might come true.

I drank the elixir Koolaid for a while, Seafoam included. Then I did some actual experiments using Seafoam by soaking carb parts in it. The end results were that it did nothing to remove varnish or clear galleries and jets. Even if left for days. An old toothbrush, a piece of thin wire, Varsol/solvent
and compressed air are far more effective.

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#4609055 - 12/20/17 07:36 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
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Originally Posted By: irv

With today's fuels, imo, getting worse due to Ethanol, I find it even more important to use all the time.


So your answer to alcohol in fuel is to add more alcohol?

Seafoam is overpriced alcohol.



Edited by spasm3 (12/20/17 07:38 AM)
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#4609086 - 12/20/17 08:15 AM Re: 2 stroke with no power? [Re: motor_oil_madman]
gotnogunk Offline


Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 90
Loc: Florida
This may not apply to string trimmers but my echo chainsaw had the same problem and it was a clogged spark arrester screen in the exhaust
system just before the muffler.

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