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#4605141 - 12/16/17 07:59 AM Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution
MI_Roger Offline


Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 327
Loc: Ypsilanti, MI
I just learned this morning that windshield cleaning solutions effective to Minus 40 to Minus 49 degrees C are available for purchase just across the border in Windsor. The best I can find in the local area is Minus 30 Degrees F. What concerns me about these locally available fluids is that even the cheap Blue Stuff that freezes solid in the solvent jug is rated at Minus 25 degrees F. Minus 40 Degrees C is approximately equal to Minus 40 Degrees F, IIRC the true equality point is Minus 41 degrees.

These solvents sold in Canada have a huge Skull & Crossbones on the label, so they may use Methanol rather than Isopropanol as the anti-freeze ingredient. Before I ask a Canadian co-worker to bring 4 jugs across the border for me, does anyone know if this stuff can be legally brought into the US?

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#4605142 - 12/16/17 08:04 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
14Accent Offline


Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 395
Loc: MN
I don't see why not. We mix our own washer fluid at work, methanol is the main ingredient. The rest is just a little soap and some blue dye mixed with water
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#4605148 - 12/16/17 08:24 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
GSCJR Offline


Registered: 01/20/13
Posts: 1062
Loc: Ontario, Canada
The temperature advertised is only if the windshield is heated.

Edit: Maybe not. I just looked at one (-45c) and apparently will not freeze in the reservoir.


Edited by GSCJR (12/16/17 08:37 AM)
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#4605159 - 12/16/17 08:51 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
cb450sc Offline


Registered: 01/06/06
Posts: 493
Loc: Chatham, Ontario, Canada
Just checked mine. It is good to -46 and is made of methanol.

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#4605160 - 12/16/17 08:52 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
Bandito440 Offline


Registered: 02/13/12
Posts: 3854
Loc: NEUS
By the time it took you to type this, you could have called customs and already had your answer. I donít know why youíd want to rely on internet strangers for this.

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#4605178 - 12/16/17 09:10 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
Balrog006 Offline


Registered: 08/09/16
Posts: 469
Loc: West Michigan
I get this, itís rated down to -35F and itís $2-3 usually Splash Ultimate

Itís available at most home centers, big box stores and auto parts stores, no need to worry about importing anything from across the border or making a special trip just for washer fluid and at -35 itís well below any temp my car will ever see. I doubt youíd need anything more in Ypsilanti.

ETA: Per the SDS it does contain Methanol.


Edited by Balrog006 (12/16/17 09:16 AM)
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#4605186 - 12/16/17 09:18 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
irv Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 1078
Loc: Oshawa, Ont. Canada
All windshield washer fluid is not created equal. I have used various brands and in all honesty, I have found the Costco brand, -45, to be the best, and cheapest.
Also, keep in mind, most of these fluids don't freeze in the jug/reservoir, but rather in the lines that lead to the wipers or sprayers.

Also, keep in mind, Isopropyl will strip the wax from your paint so methanol (to a degree) is the preferred anti-freeze.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-dr...article6487783/
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#4605191 - 12/16/17 09:25 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
Balrog006 Offline


Registered: 08/09/16
Posts: 469
Loc: West Michigan
On the flip side of this-why are you searching for such a low temp solvent?

Iíve briefly seen -17 F or so air temps or so here in the west side, and not significantly different in the Metro Detroit area, even the -25 stuff is ok at those temps so why the need for -40 or more?
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#4605207 - 12/16/17 09:35 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
Posts: 4740
Loc: MTL, CANADA
I use the cheap blue stuff sold by a grocery store. Ive used -45 celsius stuff and found no major difference. It was -20 celsius yesterday morning and it didnt freeze. What about buying Methanol and adding it to what you already use? Should have no issue having that get past customs.
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#4605218 - 12/16/17 09:41 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
WobblyElvis Online   content


Registered: 09/23/14
Posts: 1353
Loc: Toronto Canada
In my experience, at speed, they all freeze on the windshield during cold weather. Below 0 degrees F.

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#4605240 - 12/16/17 09:56 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
ctrcbob Offline


Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 614
Loc: Mount Dora FL, Penfield NY, R...
Here in Central Florida, very hard to find anything that goes below freezing. Well, why go I need fluid that goes not freeze? Because I sometimes have to go up North, for family emergencies. Here in Florida, dealers to only add water with lots of soap. I have a sign on my washer tank to do not add or fill. Half the time they try anyway as they don't speak English anyway. (Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, Columbians, etc.)

On my last trip up north last September, I forgot to buy a couple bottles to bring back.
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#4605242 - 12/16/17 09:58 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
mightymousetech Offline


Registered: 04/03/17
Posts: 1444
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I wish I could buy the fluid BMW put in at the factory in Germany. Pure alcohol. Completely clear, and what a smell when you washed the windshield!
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#4605263 - 12/16/17 10:23 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: ctrcbob]
BalticBob Offline


Registered: 11/27/16
Posts: 395
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: ctrcbob
Here in Central Florida, very hard to find anything that goes below freezing. Well, why go I need fluid that goes not freeze? Because I sometimes have to go up North, for family emergencies. Here in Florida, dealers to only add water with lots of soap. I have a sign on my washer tank to do not add or fill. Half the time they try anyway as they don't speak English anyway. (Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, Columbians, etc.)

On my last trip up north last September, I forgot to buy a couple bottles to bring back.


Make the fluid container sign in other languages, as needed.
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#4605265 - 12/16/17 10:28 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: mightymousetech]
BalticBob Offline


Registered: 11/27/16
Posts: 395
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
I wish I could buy the fluid BMW put in at the factory in Germany. Pure alcohol. Completely clear, and what a smell when you washed the windshield!


Pure alcohol, like vodka?
Route a line to your dash for taking samples.
Only when parked, of course.

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#4605266 - 12/16/17 10:29 AM Re: Ultra-low Temperature Windshield Cleaning Solution [Re: MI_Roger]
Mainia Offline


Registered: 04/06/15
Posts: 205
Loc: Upper midwest
The Obama administration put in act new laws to reduce methanol (I called a local large manufacture and that's what they said) and they had -25 degs on their bottles and this winter when Trump pulled back stupid ars regulations their bottles now have -35 degs.

I called them a couple years ago and ask why the heck I keep freezing up in my nozzles when it is 15 degs and lower, he said they were federally mandated to lower methanol. I told him I was using their de-icer in the bottle and pouring in to my tank with their [censored] fluid. He said the spray bottle is a bit more concentrated and not "YET" dictated to to reduce it. He said that is what we do here. What a dump ars law. Thank God they pulled that back.

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