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Job sucks the life out of me. #4603633
12/14/17 05:18 PM
12/14/17 05:18 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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I have been with a company for over 10 years, The company has changed a lot since them and not necessarily for the better. I feel that most days the job sucks the life out of me, its usually a very easy job, its all the politics and the petty b.s.

Its a smaller company in a smaller city so the only people that seem to get hired under the current regime are friends and family of people there who are department heads, or employees that matter. They dont care what you know they care what you know.

It is a very technical job and I still have a lot to learn, but it is very hard grow at this place. Many of the people who work there are complete idiots. The guy who I work with 8 hours a day has been there almost 20 years. At 20 years you should be at the top of your craft or close to it. The lunkhead I work with doesn't even know many of the basics of the job. I have never worked with someone with so little ambition or initiative, his attitude is he has been there a long time so he must be doing a good job.

He actually costs the company a lot of unnecessary money with his poor decisions, complete lack of critical thinking skills and things he screws up. The guy is useless. He will never get fired at the rate the place is going. I know for a fact anywhere else in my field he would have been fired years ago. He has neither the intelligence to do the job, patience, ability, ambition or initiative to learn anything.

The problem is a new job would require moving, which I am not opposed to, but with family obligations, a house in the middle of a renovation and my health and stamina, I am reluctant to make a change. I did it 15 years ago and dived in feet first, I no longer have that fearlessness that I had then. I have ailing parents, a small child and a wife to look after and I simply dont know how in the [censored] I could move 10 hours away, It would be too much.

What if I move 500 miles away and find the new job has other issues and overall its worse.

I mean right now my job is easy. While I am not challenged very much at all, its really easy. What if I go work for a company where I am partnered with a difficult person?

I also usually work 40 hours a week at most. I have done the whole 50 plus hour weeks before and I dont want that. It can be common in my field, so I dont want to go to a new company and end up working 50 to 60 hours a week. The money would be phenomenal, but I have a family I want to spend time with.

I guarantee any company that I apply to will require a knowledge exam before they even talk to me. Most companies in my field are interested more in what you know vs. who you know.

I can make more money elsewhere, I can find easier work, but I will never find work this easy that pays what I make.


If this is a case where I should just be glad I have a decent paying job with average benefits, how can I help deal with the feeling of the life being sucked out of me?

There are many people here in this forum and I look to you folks for any knowledge or advice you may have.

Thanks

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603637
12/14/17 05:25 PM
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Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603640
12/14/17 05:32 PM
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Sounds like you are very risk averse at the present moment and you are looking for a sure thing to consider changing jobs.
Problem is that there are never sure things, the best you could get is probably to go work with somebody you know really well at a place he/she has been employed for quite some time. Things could still get worse for you even in that case, of course.

IDK, as long as you are not concerned about being replaced by a friend or family member of a department head, sounds like maybe you should stay put until moving to a new town is more palatable or an opportunity that is just so good you can't say no comes up.


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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: bigj_16] #4603643
12/14/17 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


^^This^^ plus you're going to have to stop caring about the workplace culture there and just milk the company for your salary without putting in much in the way of extra efforts whatsoever. Basically what your work partner is doing. True, such a strategy is counter to what you believe in but it sounds like the culture there is so apathetic already that no one will notice anyhow.



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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603659
12/14/17 05:50 PM
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Tough decision. If you are not able to move or find remote work you are pretty much stuck. Try not to burn any bridge at work even with the incompetent dead wood, if you play your card right they will be nice to you and ask you to cover their behind.

What kind of work do you do?


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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603662
12/14/17 05:52 PM
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I agree with Lone ranger 100%. Your work problems are for the manager. Keep your head down and keep your eyes open for a better job in the mean time.


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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: bigj_16] #4603663
12/14/17 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


I agree.

What field / industry are you in, give us a hint. You said it's technical, I'm guessing the pay is decent.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4603664
12/14/17 05:53 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Sounds like you are very risk averse at the present moment and you are looking for a sure thing to consider changing jobs.
Problem is that there are never sure things, the best you could get is probably to go work with somebody you know really well at a place he/she has been employed for quite some time. Things could still get worse for you even in that case, of course.

IDK, as long as you are not concerned about being replaced by a friend or family member of a department head, sounds like maybe you should stay put until moving to a new town is more palatable or an opportunity that is just so good you can't say no comes up.


I think it is very unlikely that friends or family would replace me, my job requires a specialized skill set and my immediate boss is neither friends or family, He is actually a great guy, great boss, and very intelligent. He is actually is a similar situation I am in.

Not everyone is friends and family, it just seems that the new regime tends to hire F&F. Years ago it wasn't quite as bad, however this is a fairly small community and there is usually a certain amount of incestuousness that goes along with that by design, overall this community is behind the times 20 years or so and that hurts matters as well.

Oddly enough some of the best employees, including my boss, myself, and a few others, are not from here originally. They hired us for what we knew.

I will say that many know that I am an asset. They probably dont want to lose me.

Honestly at this company I am a stellar employee, at a bigger company with mostly competent people I would merely be an average employee. I dont want to sound like I am Gods Gift to the company, its just that its easy to be one of the better employees where I am at. I do try.

There are some critical things that only my Immediate boss and myself know how to do. My partner should know but he honestly does not have what it takes and is truly incompetent. The Big boss and my boss know that I am a "key" employee.

Again I do not have a grandiose opinion of myself, Its just that In this dirty little pond I am a fish that learned, payed attention and stands out as one of the stronger fishys.





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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: bigj_16] #4603668
12/14/17 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


This. Are you able to work less hours and maybe pick up another part time gig or hobby on the side and still make ends meet? I am in your shoes with respect to being in a job for many years and it gets monotonous.. I think you need to try to focus on a hobby or something on the side.. I wouldnt worry too much about the guy who works with you.. I would however find someone very skilled at the role and do all you can to learn from them if thats what you want to do. If you learn more will it enable to provide you with more credentials for work elsewhere if its ever needed? Think of it as, a fallback plan. See if they can cover any type of skill training or certifications on their dime, so at least if you decide down the road to walk away, you have some credentials and experience that will be valid for other roles. I think just doing a side class or hobby a couple times a week would change your mindset. You need something new in your life to break the mold! Join a gym, pursue a hobby you have been wanting to pursue. I dont know how old you are, so difficult to provide age relevant suggestions. I also have one kid and a wife, and I am trying to put my mind to one thing at a time and get things off my to do list. It keeps me busy. The problem with a job that is quiet most of the time is that you have alot of time to think about the negatives.. Good luck smile


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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: LoneRanger] #4603669
12/14/17 05:56 PM
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Indiana
5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


^^This^^ plus you're going to have to stop caring about the workplace culture there and just milk the company for your salary without putting in much in the way of extra efforts whatsoever. Basically what your work partner is doing. True, such a strategy is counter to what you believe in but it sounds like the culture there is so apathetic already that no one will notice anyhow.


Very true. Honestly that's what happens, I care, I try and I get frustrated.

The company morale is terrible, the people that have skills and knowledge have either left for other jobs or like my immediate boss, are apathetic.

Very good advice.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: Rolla07] #4603685
12/14/17 06:09 PM
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5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


This. Are you able to work less hours and maybe pick up another part time gig or hobby on the side and still make ends meet? I am in your shoes with respect to being in a job for many years and it gets monotonous.. I think you need to try to focus on a hobby or something on the side.. I wouldnt worry too much about the guy who works with you.. I would however find someone very skilled at the role and do all you can to learn from them if thats what you want to do. If you learn more will it enable to provide you with more credentials for work elsewhere if its ever needed? Think of it as, a fallback plan. See if they can cover any type of skill training or certifications on their dime, so at least if you decide down the road to walk away, you have some credentials and experience that will be valid for other roles. I think just doing a side class or hobby a couple times a week would change your mindset. You need something new in your life to break the mold! Join a gym, pursue a hobby you have been wanting to pursue. I dont know how old you are, so difficult to provide age relevant suggestions. I also have one kid and a wife, and I am trying to put my mind to one thing at a time and get things off my to do list. It keeps me busy. The problem with a job that is quiet most of the time is that you have alot of time to think about the negatives.. Good luck smile


I cannot work less hours, But I have thought about working on finishing my degree. I have technical certifications, but no degree.

Ill just come out and say it. No one here I work with would even know a forum like this exists, except a few and this is nothing new to them either.

I am 38, and I am a Substation operation/maintenance, meter and protective relaying tech.
I wear a lot of hats. I enjoy the job overall, its just some of the people. The company treats us with such contempt its not funny. They make a big deal about the pettiest of things and then they let serious things go.

They actually used to tell us if we had any hint of a critical comment or suggestion that didnt fit the narrative that if we didn't like it we could leave. Well a lot of people did...lol. Alot. They lost some really good employees. Now their tune has changed a little, but deep down its still the same old archaic company it always has been.

It all stems from poor management.

I think I am spoiled a bit. Every job I have had before this has treated me with some level of respect. This place treats many of the employees with disdain and contempt. I honestly feel I was treated better as a bag boy at a grocery store than this place.

Now the incompetent oafs like my partner just put up with it because they are totally unemployable at any other company in our field. There is nowhere they can go and make the same money with their skills. They know this and deal with it. I know I can do better, but do i want to open that pandoras box.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: Mr Nice] #4603687
12/14/17 06:13 PM
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5AcresAndAFool Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Keep the job. Find something meaningful outside of work.


I agree.

What field / industry are you in, give us a hint. You said it's technical, I'm guessing the pay is decent.


I am in the electrical industry. Substations,metering and protective relaying.

Pay is about 65k a year which is great for this area. Cost of living here is cheap.
I did interview a year ago at another company not far from here, I made it down to the last round of interviews, but I didn't make the cut.

That job was union, great benefits and over 10 dollars more per hour.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603689
12/14/17 06:15 PM
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It's easy to be an arm chair quarterback in these situations. Even with with all the info you have shared, we still don't know all the dynamics.

Several decades ago an old timer shared some of his wisdom with me when I was struggling a bit. He told that as long as you continue to work hard to please others, you will always fall short and be frustrated. Work hard to please yourself. At the end of your shift, week, month, or year, have self respect for the good, hard, smart work that you completed with integrity and responsibility. This eliminates some of that burden you carry regarding all that is going on in your work place that bothers you: incompetence, laziness, favoritism, politics, [censored] kissing, sense of no appreciation from company,etc..

Maybe take other measures to learn how to deal with those issues that are the negative parts of your job. This might include seeing a counselor or taking a community college course to learn new methods of dealing with people and circumstances.

It seems that you are at that critical point where you know that the grass actually may not be greener in that other pasture. Ya, I guess my opinion is to try to make the current situation work before jumping ship.......if possible.

Good luck with your situation. That life-sucking affect is not good for your health.

Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4603699
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I was once told that is why it is called work.


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Re: Job sucks the life out of me. [Re: doitmyself] #4603700
12/14/17 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: doitmyself

It seems that you are at that critical point where you know that the grass actually may not be greener in that other pasture. Ya, I guess my opinion is to try to make the current situation work before jumping ship.......if possible.

Good luck with your situation. That life-sucking affect is not good for your health.


Very well put. I think it has had an effect on my health.

Honestly sometimes the electrical utility industry is tough. Its a 24-7-365 job. It respects no holidays,birthdays,anniversaries, nothing. It wouldn't hurt my feelings to get out of it completely.

I have thought about pursuing a passion of mine as a side business. The possibility is there where I could do it full time. I am researching things needed to start it up.

Working here has soured me on the utility industry honestly. There are definitely some that have to be better, but many that are worse.... Many times you cannot determine that until you have already jumped in the deep end.

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