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Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters #4603219
12/14/17 09:09 AM
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mrdctaylor Offline OP
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Guys,

I've used Toyota OEM filters (the yzzd1 variety) since my 2002 Tacoma was new. I'm almost out of my current stash and was going to order some more. However, I noticed that I can get Denso filters from Rockauto for a little bit cheaper. Since they make the OEM filters, I started looking at them. Now I'm confused. Apparently, Densos are now made in China and don't have the o-ring style gasket (which may not matter--just a way of identifying that they've changed). The current yzzd1 filters I'm using have an o-ring gasket instead of the more traditional looking gasket. So my first instinct is to just order more yzzd1 Toyotas. HOWEVER, I began wondering (and think I may have even read somewhere) that new Toyota OEM filters have changed too.

I guess my question is this: has anyone bought an OEM Toyota filter in the last year or so? My stash is years old. What does yours look like? Does it have an o-ring gasket or a traditional gasket? Was the end sealed in plastic? Was it made in China or Thailand or the USA? I even read somewhere that Toyota started contracting with Purolator. If that's the case, I don't want to pay more for a Toyota filter if it is just a Purolator.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603223
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I've bought both recently. The Toyota filters were made in Thailand and the Denso ones in China. I am not planning on buying any more of the aftermarket Denso ones however.

They both had the plastic covering and both had pre-lubricated seals. I'll have to check on the gasket design but I don't recall that changing lately.


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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603229
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Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603233
12/14/17 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.


1994 BMW 530i, 228K
1996 Honda Accord, 263K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 400K
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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: kschachn] #4603240
12/14/17 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.


It isn't a huge deal to me TBH. Heck, the phone, computer, TV etc. I use were all manufactured in China. But if someone can point me to a quality filter that is reasonably priced and made in the USA I'd be willing to give it a try.


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603241
12/14/17 09:30 AM
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Although the filters(OE TOYOTA & Denso) may not be exactly the same, use the Denso with confidence!


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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603245
12/14/17 09:34 AM
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For $3 on Rockauto, the Densos seem hard to beat. Of course, shipping drives that up some. I can get 5 filters for about $23 shipped. I can get 5 OEM filters shipped for $25-26.

While we're on the subject, are there any other filters in that price range (or cheaper) that people would consider higher quality? Or at least high quality enough for a 7500 mile (7-8 month) OCI on a 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L?


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603255
12/14/17 09:42 AM
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I ordered Toyota OE in the past year, made in Thailand, great quality, no worry, filters. They also make the G version in your size made by Purolator to their specs. Toyota sells the TRD also, a full synthetic USA made filter by Champ Labs that claims 98.7% @ 20 microns for the efficiency I believe.
The blue Denso from Thailand were discontinued in favor of their new black ones made in China. I am guessing it could be the Thailand factory is at capacity and the Asian market has a large demand.

Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: goodtimes] #4603257
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Originally Posted By: goodtimes
I ordered Toyota OE in the past year, made in Thailand, great quality, no worry, filters. They also make the G version in your size made by Purolator to their specs. Toyota sells the TRD also, a full synthetic USA made filter by Champ Labs that claims 98.7% @ 20 microns for the efficiency I believe.
The blue Denso from Thailand were discontinued in favor of their new black ones made in China. I am guessing it could be the Thailand factory is at capacity and the Asian market has a large demand.


Thanks!


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603262
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I wouldn't hesitate to use a Mahle filter (made in Austria), either--$3.68 on RockAuto. Mahle filters are OE on many European cars, and have been fine for the last 34 years in my motorcycle, FWIW.

Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603311
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Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.


It isn't a huge deal to me TBH. Heck, the phone, computer, TV etc. I use were all manufactured in China. But if someone can point me to a quality filter that is reasonably priced and made in the USA I'd be willing to give it a try.


Yes and that's why you can hardly get a HD on your computer anymore that will last three years.


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Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
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In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603312
12/14/17 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
For $3 on Rockauto, the Densos seem hard to beat. Of course, shipping drives that up some. I can get 5 filters for about $23 shipped. I can get 5 OEM filters shipped for $25-26.


Right! On RockAuto, one needs to order enough quantity of filters including shipping to make it worth the while. This is what I have done too. smile


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'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV
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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor] #4603466
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For my 22RE Toyota engine, the Toyota Thailand made spin on filter has been discontinued. Yes, Purolator is making the Toyota filter for that engine now. I bought two. Cut one open, and ran the other for 3,000 mile oil change interval. Both new and used looked fine to me.


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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: BigD1] #4603514
12/14/17 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: BigD1
For my 22RE Toyota engine, the Toyota Thailand made spin on filter has been discontinued. Yes, Purolator is making the Toyota filter for that engine now. I bought two. Cut one open, and ran the other for 3,000 mile oil change interval. Both new and used looked fine to me.


I have recently bought a case of the Thailand 90915-YZZD1 for my 22RE on ebay. You can find them for as cheap as $34.50 shipped for a case of 10. Mine were bought about 6 months ago and still say Thailand. I was not aware they were discontinuing the Thailand version.

I used to buy Denso from Rock Auto. Once they started making the Denso brand in China I switched to the Toyota OEM by the case on ebay.


1994 Toyota Pickup 202,000mi
1999 Mazda Protege 220,000mi
2000 BMW 323i 126,000mi
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Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: rustypigeon] #4603527
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Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen that eBay listing for $34.50, but I just jumped on it! My brother-in-law has the same truck and is going to split the case with me. Perfect.


02 Tacoma 3.4L, 219K, Magnatec 10W30
02 Trailblazer 4.2L, 179K, Edge HM 10W40
12 Highlander 3.5L, 96K, M1 EP 0W20
17 Escape 2.0L, 31K, Hav ProDS 5W30
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