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#4603219 - 12/14/17 08:09 AM Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 595
Loc: McGregor TX
Guys,

I've used Toyota OEM filters (the yzzd1 variety) since my 2002 Tacoma was new. I'm almost out of my current stash and was going to order some more. However, I noticed that I can get Denso filters from Rockauto for a little bit cheaper. Since they make the OEM filters, I started looking at them. Now I'm confused. Apparently, Densos are now made in China and don't have the o-ring style gasket (which may not matter--just a way of identifying that they've changed). The current yzzd1 filters I'm using have an o-ring gasket instead of the more traditional looking gasket. So my first instinct is to just order more yzzd1 Toyotas. HOWEVER, I began wondering (and think I may have even read somewhere) that new Toyota OEM filters have changed too.

I guess my question is this: has anyone bought an OEM Toyota filter in the last year or so? My stash is years old. What does yours look like? Does it have an o-ring gasket or a traditional gasket? Was the end sealed in plastic? Was it made in China or Thailand or the USA? I even read somewhere that Toyota started contracting with Purolator. If that's the case, I don't want to pay more for a Toyota filter if it is just a Purolator.

Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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#4603223 - 12/14/17 08:13 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
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Registered: 12/26/05
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I've bought both recently. The Toyota filters were made in Thailand and the Denso ones in China. I am not planning on buying any more of the aftermarket Denso ones however.

They both had the plastic covering and both had pre-lubricated seals. I'll have to check on the gasket design but I don't recall that changing lately.
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#4603229 - 12/14/17 08:19 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


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Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?
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#4603233 - 12/14/17 08:23 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
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Registered: 12/26/05
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Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.
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#4603240 - 12/14/17 08:25 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: kschachn]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.


It isn't a huge deal to me TBH. Heck, the phone, computer, TV etc. I use were all manufactured in China. But if someone can point me to a quality filter that is reasonably priced and made in the USA I'd be willing to give it a try.
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#4603241 - 12/14/17 08:30 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10077
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
Although the filters(OE TOYOTA & Denso) may not be exactly the same, use the Denso with confidence!
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#4603245 - 12/14/17 08:34 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
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For $3 on Rockauto, the Densos seem hard to beat. Of course, shipping drives that up some. I can get 5 filters for about $23 shipped. I can get 5 OEM filters shipped for $25-26.

While we're on the subject, are there any other filters in that price range (or cheaper) that people would consider higher quality? Or at least high quality enough for a 7500 mile (7-8 month) OCI on a 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L?
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#4603255 - 12/14/17 08:42 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
goodtimes Offline


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I ordered Toyota OE in the past year, made in Thailand, great quality, no worry, filters. They also make the G version in your size made by Purolator to their specs. Toyota sells the TRD also, a full synthetic USA made filter by Champ Labs that claims 98.7% @ 20 microns for the efficiency I believe.
The blue Denso from Thailand were discontinued in favor of their new black ones made in China. I am guessing it could be the Thailand factory is at capacity and the Asian market has a large demand.

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#4603257 - 12/14/17 08:44 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: goodtimes]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 595
Loc: McGregor TX
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
I ordered Toyota OE in the past year, made in Thailand, great quality, no worry, filters. They also make the G version in your size made by Purolator to their specs. Toyota sells the TRD also, a full synthetic USA made filter by Champ Labs that claims 98.7% @ 20 microns for the efficiency I believe.
The blue Denso from Thailand were discontinued in favor of their new black ones made in China. I am guessing it could be the Thailand factory is at capacity and the Asian market has a large demand.


Thanks!
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#4603262 - 12/14/17 08:52 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
khittner Offline


Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 328
Loc: Michigan
I wouldn't hesitate to use a Mahle filter (made in Austria), either--$3.68 on RockAuto. Mahle filters are OE on many European cars, and have been fine for the last 34 years in my motorcycle, FWIW.

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#4603311 - 12/14/17 09:41 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
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Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
Thanks for the info. Is there a particular reason you won't be buying more Densos or is it mainly because it is made in China?

Yeah, just the China thing, but that may not matter to you. From what they looked like they seemed fine.


It isn't a huge deal to me TBH. Heck, the phone, computer, TV etc. I use were all manufactured in China. But if someone can point me to a quality filter that is reasonably priced and made in the USA I'd be willing to give it a try.


Yes and that's why you can hardly get a HD on your computer anymore that will last three years.
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#4603312 - 12/14/17 09:42 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 10077
Loc: ROCHESTER, NY
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
For $3 on Rockauto, the Densos seem hard to beat. Of course, shipping drives that up some. I can get 5 filters for about $23 shipped. I can get 5 OEM filters shipped for $25-26.


Right! On RockAuto, one needs to order enough quantity of filters including shipping to make it worth the while. This is what I have done too. smile
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#4603466 - 12/14/17 11:55 AM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: mrdctaylor]
BigD1 Offline


Registered: 08/12/15
Posts: 2580
Loc: NC
For my 22RE Toyota engine, the Toyota Thailand made spin on filter has been discontinued. Yes, Purolator is making the Toyota filter for that engine now. I bought two. Cut one open, and ran the other for 3,000 mile oil change interval. Both new and used looked fine to me.
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#4603514 - 12/14/17 12:48 PM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: BigD1]
rustypigeon Offline


Registered: 03/27/09
Posts: 211
Loc: PA USA
Originally Posted By: BigD1
For my 22RE Toyota engine, the Toyota Thailand made spin on filter has been discontinued. Yes, Purolator is making the Toyota filter for that engine now. I bought two. Cut one open, and ran the other for 3,000 mile oil change interval. Both new and used looked fine to me.


I have recently bought a case of the Thailand 90915-YZZD1 for my 22RE on ebay. You can find them for as cheap as $34.50 shipped for a case of 10. Mine were bought about 6 months ago and still say Thailand. I was not aware they were discontinuing the Thailand version.

I used to buy Denso from Rock Auto. Once they started making the Denso brand in China I switched to the Toyota OEM by the case on ebay.
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#4603527 - 12/14/17 01:11 PM Re: Question about Toyota OEM and Denso filters [Re: rustypigeon]
mrdctaylor Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 595
Loc: McGregor TX
Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen that eBay listing for $34.50, but I just jumped on it! My brother-in-law has the same truck and is going to split the case with me. Perfect.
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